Why we shouldn't take the Palestinian situation all that seriously

[Lee Cahalan]

Is the OP satire?

Or stupidity?

Nah. Is called "common sense".

The point being that there is NOTHING left worth defending in West Bank or Gaza. Or Israel for that matter really But the Israelis have all the guns and the American military at their disposal and to do all their bidding. So I say give it to them. Maybe then they'll stop propping up bastards like the Bush family back here in the USA.

Its a small fry contest anyway. Every time you allow the Palestinians front page exposure on the NY Times?

Another 100,000 poor kids starve or are infected with AIDS on the continent of Africa. Another COMMON SENSE concept lost on the typically egotistical, misguided American liberal.

Are Palestinian kids genetically inferior to African kids?

No. there's just far fewer Palestinian kids compared to children of the WHOLE AFRICAN CONTINENT...

Are you suggesting that Jan Klimkowski is an American liberal?

I have no idea what her politics are except that at my initial glance she appears to have fairly shallow perceptions.

When you suggest that we look at matters of life and death from the "cold real estate angle," you are not thinking outside the box. You are thinking inside a very old, all too familiar box -- one that not too many years ago had its sides reconfigured into a crooked cross.

It isn't me looking at the matter that way but the world itself. I'm satisfied living in a shack in the desert. Or at worst in a one bedroom in some slum of Oakland, CA. Neither being any where near so bad as most anywhere in the Occupied Territories and ALL of Gaza.

You, I'm afraid, are just another self-possessed little hater who has traded helmet and arm bands for eye shade and arm garters.

Write if you get work.

Typical "inside the box" liberal fare. Demonstrating an understanding not much more advanced than those on the extreme right who hate Bill & Hillary.

The Palestinians are the losers of our generation. Nothing much can spare them a life of squalor, hate and misery. Regardless of what we do. Their own leaders have sold them down the river for generations. And it isn't like we can expect much help from the Israelis either. Not hardly. Get serious.

Since 2000 there have been perhaps 7000 rocket attacks launched on Israel from either the Occupied Territories or Southern Lebanon. Go check any search engine if you doubt me. To be honest I'm sure that some of these attacks have been false flag black ops initiated by the Israeli bastards in Mossad. But even if we deduct half of these attacks we still see an out of control Palestinian leadership. A group of people so clueless and out of touch with real politics that they can't perceive the concept that to launch attacks against Israel is collective, cultural suicide.

Which in a nutshell is what their people are. For now that is. I hope they can change but I'm not holding my breath waiting.

And the flotilla parades of last year were sponsored in part by the IRA. That's right. At one time I infiltrated one of their web-sites. Pretending to be a pro flotilla Israeli. In private message they would gloat about how much they enjoyed drawing Israeli commando fire on their innocents on the boats. Meanwhile actively working to break the Israel blockade in order to re-arm Gaza.

[Lauren Johnson]

Lee, When I saw this video, I thought of you.

[video=youtube_share;EP-v1z2prg8]http://youtu.be/EP-v1z2prg8[/video]

[Charles Drago]

Is the OP satire?

Or stupidity?

Nah. Is called "common sense".

The point being that there is NOTHING left worth defending in West Bank or Gaza. Or Israel for that matter really But the Israelis have all the guns and the American military at their disposal and to do all their bidding. So I say give it to them. Maybe then they'll stop propping up bastards like the Bush family back here in the USA.

Its a small fry contest anyway. Every time you allow the Palestinians front page exposure on the NY Times?

Another 100,000 poor kids starve or are infected with AIDS on the continent of Africa. Another COMMON SENSE concept lost on the typically egotistical, misguided American liberal.

Are Palestinian kids genetically inferior to African kids?

No. there's just far fewer Palestinian kids compared to children of the WHOLE AFRICAN CONTINENT...

Are you suggesting that Jan Klimkowski is an American liberal?

I have no idea what her politics are except that at my initial glance she appears to have fairly shallow perceptions.

When you suggest that we look at matters of life and death from the "cold real estate angle," you are not thinking outside the box. You are thinking inside a very old, all too familiar box -- one that not too many years ago had its sides reconfigured into a crooked cross.

It isn't me looking at the matter that way but the world itself. I'm satisfied living in a shack in the desert. Or at worst in a one bedroom in some slum of Oakland, CA. Neither being any where near so bad as most anywhere in the Occupied Territories and ALL of Gaza.

You, I'm afraid, are just another self-possessed little hater who has traded helmet and arm bands for eye shade and arm garters.

Write if you get work.

Typical "inside the box" liberal fare. Demonstrating an understanding not much more advanced than those on the extreme right who hate Bill & Hillary.

[B]

The Palestinians are the losers of our generation.

Wort!

ADBRLAMA! (Ich bin auf dem Boden rollen, lachen aus meinem Arsch!)

Okay, Horst Wessel-ette, here's the deal:

Don't get too comfy-cozy around these parts.

[Seamus Coogan]

Lauren you are arguing with another triumph of Don's modding at the EF.

You all may recall that Lee Cahalan said all manner of nasty things about me some months ago. Indeed folks here's the threads at the EF where he's talked his anus infested smack!!! Note how people like Cahalan cannot debate the issues but make it all very personal.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....opic=18751

He has also said a number of things about Jim DiEugenio. Now, I can handle barbs and slings (sheesh you've seen me wrestle with CD 'ouch' is all I have to say) but when you bring my pal Jim Di into all this. Well, that's when you're seriously screwing with the wrong guy! Lee Cahalan fully endorses John Hankey, Alex Jones and decries Jim DiEugenio and I for being disinformation agents simply for saying they suck the big kahuna! On top of that he fully endorses the bullshit Hankey=Fetzer treatise.
Which my reply to here at the DPF publically humiliated his insane pal Fetzer. JF could not acknowledge or answer any of my points or questions. Jim stepped up to belt Cahalan into orbit but then Don the numpty who had recently been shat on here by me for defending Ralph Cinque! Then criticised Jim for having me around lol. There was no admonishment of Cahalans bullshit comments from Don about Jim. Not even a sign of censure for the libellous shite he'd said about CTKA (Pat at least had the decency to give him a warning). Don obviously thinks Mr Cahalans stench is as important and valid as Jim Di's voice.

Well you do don't you Don?

Please take note here how Don Jeffries essentially defends this garbage from Cahalan. Yet he then goes running to Jim crying about me. Now folks Don's unpleasent exchange with me came about after Albert and I spoilt the little love session he had with Ralph Cinque while that walking abortion was on here. Don the big fan of Jim Di didn't think to step in here for this bullshit rant from Cahalan either!!!

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....opic=18819

Thus let's look at Don's defence of Cahalan here

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....8751&st=30

I really hope Don you are enjoying witnessing another one of you're flowers getting crushed in front of you by this entire forum!!!!!!

As for you Mr Cahalan, I noticed you haven't even had the balls to find the John Hankey/Fetzer thread I put up here. Nor discuss the crap Fetzer said about my review. Is the fact he was publically humiliated here once again by close to an entire forum in the ensuing debate, the reason why you are steering clear? Hmmmm after seeing you're pitiful intellect and reasoning on display here once again Mr Cahalan. I am very, very, very glad to say that unlike the EF where conspirahypocrite loving dupes like you can enjoy the protection of the pitiful Tom Scully and Dandies like Don. You're stay here will be short, sharp and exceedingly painful.

Thank Jehovah once again Don is not a mod at DPF!

[Magda Hassan]

Wort!

ADBRLAMA! (Ich bin auf dem Boden rollen, lachen aus meinem Arsch!)

Okay, Horst Wessel-ette, here's the deal:

Don't get too comfy-cozy around these parts.

Wort!
Tatsächlich ADBRLAMA!

[Danny Jarman]

But you get the point: The West Bank and especially Gaza aren't particularly nice places to live. If I lived there the only thing I would be thinking of is to get OUT.

Did you not stop to think this might be a result of Israeli occupation? Beirut was a nice once and they destroyed that too.

[Jan Klimkowski]

The Palestinians are the losers of our generation. Nothing much can spare them a life of squalor, hate and misery. Regardless of what we do. Their own leaders have sold them down the river for generations. And it isn't like we can expect much help from the Israelis either. Not hardly. Get serious.

Since 2000 there have been perhaps 7000 rocket attacks launched on Israel from either the Occupied Territories or Southern Lebanon. Go check any search engine if you doubt me. To be honest I'm sure that some of these attacks have been false flag black ops initiated by the Israeli bastards in Mossad. But even if we deduct half of these attacks we still see an out of control Palestinian leadership. A group of people so clueless and out of touch with real politics that they can't perceive the concept that to launch attacks against Israel is collective, cultural suicide.

Which in a nutshell is what their people are. For now that is. I hope they can change but I'm not holding my breath waiting.

And the flotilla parades of last year were sponsored in part by the IRA. That's right. At one time I infiltrated one of their web-sites. Pretending to be a pro flotilla Israeli. In private message they would gloat about how much they enjoyed drawing Israeli commando fire on their innocents on the boats. Meanwhile actively working to break the Israel blockade in order to re-arm Gaza.

Ffs.

Where to start with this Little Amerikaner xenophobic garbage.

"The flotilla parades were sponsored in part by the IRA".

I beg your pardon. You mean the Irish Republican Army that fought the Brits and is now in power in Northern Ireland? Or do you mean the Real IRA?

Who do you think runs the IRA and the Real IRA in 2012? And what does this have to do with illegal attacks on maritime vessels?

As for your "Palestinian rocket attack" tripe, you display a complete lack both of historical understanding and of the ability to unpick one-sided MSM news feeds.

Ever heard of Operation Danny? Ever heard of Sabra and Shatila? Of the Intifada?

Does Deir Yassin mean anything to you?

You've fallen so deep in the box that all you can see is Amerikaner cardboard, and you mistake that for the real world.

[Dawn Meredith]

Is the OP satire?

Or stupidity?

Nah. Is called "common sense".

The point being that there is NOTHING left worth defending in West Bank or Gaza. Or Israel for that matter really But the Israelis have all the guns and the American military at their disposal and to do all their bidding. So I say give it to them. Maybe then they'll stop propping up bastards like the Bush family back here in the USA.

Its a small fry contest anyway. Every time you allow the Palestinians front page exposure on the NY Times?

Another 100,000 poor kids starve or are infected with AIDS on the continent of Africa. Another COMMON SENSE concept lost on the typically egotistical, misguided American liberal.

Are Palestinian kids genetically inferior to African kids?



No. there's just far fewer Palestinian kids compared to children of the WHOLE AFRICAN CONTINENT...

Are you suggesting that Jan Klimkowski is an American liberal?

I have no idea what her politics are except that at my initial glance she appears to have fairly shallow perceptions.

When you suggest that we look at matters of life and death from the "cold real estate angle," you are not thinking outside the box. You are thinking inside a very old, all too familiar box -- one that not too many years ago had its sides reconfigured into a crooked cross.

It isn't me looking at the matter that way but the world itself. I'm satisfied living in a shack in the desert. Or at worst in a one bedroom in some slum of Oakland, CA. Neither being any where near so bad as most anywhere in the Occupied Territories and ALL of Gaza.

You, I'm afraid, are just another self-possessed little hater who has traded helmet and arm bands for eye shade and arm garters.

Write if you get work.

Typical "inside the box" liberal fare. Demonstrating an understanding not much more advanced than those on the extreme right who hate Bill & Hillary.

The Palestinians are the losers of our generation. Nothing much can spare them a life of squalor, hate and misery. Regardless of what we do. Their own leaders have sold them down the river for generations. And it isn't like we can expect much help from the Israelis either. Not hardly. Get serious.

Since 2000 there have been perhaps 7000 rocket attacks launched on Israel from either the Occupied Territories or Southern Lebanon. Go check any search engine if you doubt me. To be honest I'm sure that some of these attacks have been false flag black ops initiated by the Israeli bastards in Mossad. But even if we deduct half of these attacks we still see an out of control Palestinian leadership. A group of people so clueless and out of touch with real politics that they can't perceive the concept that to launch attacks against Israel is collective, cultural suicide.

Which in a nutshell is what their people are. For now that is. I hope they can change but I'm not holding my breath waiting.

And the flotilla parades of last year were sponsored in part by the IRA. That's right. At one time I infiltrated one of their web-sites. Pretending to be a pro flotilla Israeli. In private message they would gloat about how much they enjoyed drawing Israeli commando fire on their innocents on the boats. Meanwhile actively working to break the Israel blockade in order to re-arm Gaza.

Jan is a he and his perceptions are far from shallow. He is also a co founder and owner of this forum. When you visit people do you make it a practice to shit on their floor? Or do you just enjoy being provocative?
If so there are plenty of people to do that with and Jan is not one of them. Nor is Charles Drago. I see you are insulting him too. Not a good way to introduce yorself to this forum.

I realize they are quite capable of speaking from themselves but seeing my good friends insulted here pissed me off, not a good way to begin my day. I'm just on my first cup of coffee.

Dawn

[Seamus Coogan]

Jan is a he and his perceptions are far from shallow. He is also a co founder and owner of this forum. When you visit people do you make it a practice to shit on their floor? Or do you just enjoy being provocative?
If so there are plenty of people to do that with and Jan is not one of them. Nor is Charles Drago. I see you are insulting him too. Not a good way to introduce yorself to this forum.

I realize they are quite capable of speaking from themselves but seeing my good friends insulted here pissed me off, not a good way to begin my day. I'm just on my first cup of coffee.

Dawn

Dawn it appears that Cahalan is quite the sociopath. Just do a Google search and at one point you'll find there's a bizarre thing on the Ed Forum where he's flagellating himself for buying into Hankey. Then the next minute he's dancing around the Maypole about JF's lame review of my Hankey piece. Anyhow, I am really struggling to follow this guys logic. He makes a name by getting a boner for Jim and I. Then this turnip turns up here (after I call him out) and he winds up discussing the Middle East. So not only is this guy a wimp he's an insane one as well.

[Seamus Coogan]

Well in my reply to Mr Cahalan I took a little bit out on Don J and Tom Scully. While I disagree with the ethos of some of the mods on the EF and I find DJ and Tom Scully a little less severe than I would like. That is there business and it is their forum with a different outlook to this one. My change of heart occurred when I came across this thread here http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....15584&st=0. which gave me a pleasent shock.

It appears that Mr Cahalan while avoiding me here, put up another lousy post on an old thread. This thread concerned my take down of Hankey way back. Anyhow, it was cheap shots galore once again at Jim and I. When I saw Don's entry I anticipated another blast at myself. Instead, Don acknowledged the sanguine in me, but also acknowledged how bang out of order Cahalan was far in excess of my own blood lust and far less intelligent with it. More so than he did before, I was also pleased Scully didn't take any shite. It's an odd thing isn't it when you get an idea in you're head about what people perceive you as and vice versa. Sometimes people are way fairer on yourself, than you give them credit for. So while I lament the 'touchy feely' we are all in this together line and remain somewhat bemused at mods who think John Hankey worth a dime and giving Jim guff over shit like the Torbitt document. I am posting to say fair play to Don and Tom they've got it right on Cahalan. As much as I am flattered by it all (lol) having Len Colby stick up for CTKA is not a look I want to promote. Further that there are people on the Ed Forum I really dig. I guess they just do their own thang!!!!

So my swipes have been far to general. Also I am unsure as how to much powers the mods at the EF actually have. Anyhow as said it's their business. The odd question point or criticism I can handle. But when some Fetzer poisoned miscreant, talk's utter shite about CTKA there without the balls to meet me face to face here, Lancer or Gregs. Thats when I get a little testicular!!!