Gordon Novel dies....

[Peter Lemkin]

[Peter Lemkin]

:loo:

[Peter Lemkin]

I'm more than a bit surprised that no one has commented in any way on the video I posted of Novel covering a universe of topics......
has no one seen it, or has no one any comments. He, IMHO, mixes truths with lies and distortions; at times he is straightforward and at times dissembling and evasive. The range of topics is both interesting, immense and odd no doubt. He seems to have 'changed' in some good ways over the years and in some ways remained the same. I do urge people to watch the first one [long version] or if short on time the second [shorter interview not covering all of the same materials]. He was an interesting character!....as was David Ferrie and many others cast in the roles those two were....

[Lauren Johnson]

Peter,

The guy has a lot of nerve. The CIA doesn't go off whacking people? Their just a bunch of nice guys? Not the CIA he knew and knows. There may be something salvageable in this interview, but .... The thing that I think he is pushing the hardest is the White Hats vs. the Black Hats myth. Sorting out the bullship from the pearl is beyond me.

On to Kerry Kassidy, the interviewer: get a load of her asking at about the 12:00 minute mark in an interview with Dr. Steven Grier. Their secret witnesses who talk to them about the Illuminati agenda are telling them that we have only 10 months of food left on the planet, and ... wait for it ... only about 3 or 4 years of oxygen.

[Peter Lemkin]

Project Camelot is not my idea of an investigative anything. Along with you Lauren, I don't believe the CIA are white hats - quite the opposite. At the same time, Novel seems to understand the concept and difference between good and evil [at least in theory] and here amazingly espouses peace, renewable and sustainable energy, says that the Patriot Act is a fascist document, and other such 'enlightened' ideas. What a contradiction he was! I never met him, but do know someone who often had him over to their home...a story i plan to put on this thread when I have the energy. I can only guess that in his later years he had to psychologically dissociate himself from the evil he was connected to and a part of earlier in his life. I must say, he didn't do it in a rational way. Also, I'm not inclined to believe most of what he says about anti-gravity propulsion in his group's hands or in MJ-12s et al. I wish it were true and do believe it is theoretically - but way, way beyond our technological and conceptual grasp at this time. I know some others here on the Forum believe otherwise...so be it. As that interview was just about six years ago and he looks fit as a fiddle in it, I wonder what he died of....although anyone can have a heart attack at any time....in his son's brief announcement of his father's death he says he died in a nursing home....indicating either a collapse of his physical or mental health before death.

[Magda Hassan]

Project Camelot is not my idea of an investigative anything. Along with you Lauren, I don't believe the CIA are white hats - quite the opposite. At the same time, Novel seems to understand the concept and difference between good and evil [at least in theory] and here amazingly espouses peace, renewable and sustainable energy, says that the Patriot Act is a fascist document, and other such 'enlightened' ideas. What a contradiction he was! I never met him, but do know someone who often had him over to their home...a story i plan to put on this thread when I have the energy. I can only guess that in his later years he had to psychologically dissociate himself from the evil he was connected to and a part of earlier in his life. I must say, he didn't do it in a rational way. Also, I'm not inclined to believe most of what he says about anti-gravity propulsion in his group's hands or in MJ-12s et al. I wish it were true and do believe it is theoretically - but way, way beyond our technological and conceptual grasp at this time. I know some others here on the Forum believe otherwise...so be it. As that interview was just about six years ago and he looks fit as a fiddle in it, I wonder what he died of....although anyone can have a heart attack at any time....in his son's brief announcement of his father's death he says he died in a nursing home....indicating either a collapse of his physical or mental health before death.

A complex man. Hard to tell who he is really is and what he really thinks. I have reservations about Steven Greer and there seems to be no quality control over at Project Camelot. I suppose people can reinvent themselves but with his sort of back ground I just don't know if there is any change or genuine change......

[Dawn Meredith]

I'm more than a bit surprised that no one has commented in any way on the video I posted of Novel covering a universe of topics......
has no one seen it, or has no one any comments. He, IMHO, mixes truths with lies and distortions; at times he is straightforward and at times dissembling and evasive. The range of topics is both interesting, immense and odd no doubt. He seems to have 'changed' in some good ways over the years and in some ways remained the same. I do urge people to watch the first one [long version] or if short on time the second [shorter interview not covering all of the same materials]. He was an interesting character!....as was David Ferrie and many others cast in the roles those two were....

I cannot view it Peter. And when I try to download this feature it won't work. Further Erick has told me that when he had it it caused all sorts of problems on his computer.

Dawn

[Peter Lemkin]

I'm more than a bit surprised that no one has commented in any way on the video I posted of Novel covering a universe of topics......
has no one seen it, or has no one any comments. He, IMHO, mixes truths with lies and distortions; at times he is straightforward and at times dissembling and evasive. The range of topics is both interesting, immense and odd no doubt. He seems to have 'changed' in some good ways over the years and in some ways remained the same. I do urge people to watch the first one [long version] or if short on time the second [shorter interview not covering all of the same materials]. He was an interesting character!....as was David Ferrie and many others cast in the roles those two were....

I cannot view it Peter. And when I try to download this feature it won't work. Further Erick has told me that when he had it it caused all sorts of problems on his computer.

Dawn

Dawn, were you able to view it [or not]? - Was it only the downloading that caused a problem?...as it can be watched on YouTube without problem [for me]; further I was able to download it using either of two standard download add-ons to Firefox. Strange. Are the jamming it in the USA or are you just not using the right software to view or download it?!

[Dawn Meredith]

I'm more than a bit surprised that no one has commented in any way on the video I posted of Novel covering a universe of topics......
has no one seen it, or has no one any comments. He, IMHO, mixes truths with lies and distortions; at times he is straightforward and at times dissembling and evasive. The range of topics is both interesting, immense and odd no doubt. He seems to have 'changed' in some good ways over the years and in some ways remained the same. I do urge people to watch the first one [long version] or if short on time the second [shorter interview not covering all of the same materials]. He was an interesting character!....as was David Ferrie and many others cast in the roles those two were....

I cannot view it Peter. And when I try to download this feature it won't work. Further Erick has told me that when he had it it caused all sorts of problems on his computer.

Dawn

Dawn, were you able to view it [or not]? - Was it only the downloading that caused a problem?...as it can be watched on YouTube without problem [for me]; further I was able to download it using either of two standard download add-ons to Firefox. Strange. Are the jamming it in the USA or are you just not using the right software to view or download it?!

Peter I have no clue what the problem is, I have attempted to download this version of Adobe several times and it goes thru all the motions but then does not allow. I don't have firefox. I can do youtube w/o problem, just not this. So no I did not view it. Am working today but taking little breaks to come here but no time to mess with this.

[Lauren Johnson]

Project Camelot is not my idea of an investigative anything. Along with you Lauren, I don't believe the CIA are white hats - quite the opposite. At the same time, Novel seems to understand the concept and difference between good and evil [at least in theory] and here amazingly espouses peace, renewable and sustainable energy, says that the Patriot Act is a fascist document, and other such 'enlightened' ideas. What a contradiction he was! I never met him, but do know someone who often had him over to their home...a story i plan to put on this thread when I have the energy. I can only guess that in his later years he had to psychologically dissociate himself from the evil he was connected to and a part of earlier in his life. I must say, he didn't do it in a rational way. Also, I'm not inclined to believe most of what he says about anti-gravity propulsion in his group's hands or in MJ-12s et al. I wish it were true and do believe it is theoretically - but way, way beyond our technological and conceptual grasp at this time. I know some others here on the Forum believe otherwise...so be it. As that interview was just about six years ago and he looks fit as a fiddle in it, I wonder what he died of....although anyone can have a heart attack at any time....in his son's brief announcement of his father's death he says he died in a nursing home....indicating either a collapse of his physical or mental health before death.

My reference to the white hats is actually something specific. The White Hats are members of a cabal who oppose the status quo of the permanent war oil based culture. The favor the UFO sourced free energy technology and all the transformation of cuture that would come with it. The conflict takes place in the highest levels of the military and intelligence circles. There are two futures: one leads to population reduction and mass slavery. There other leads to a world of human self actualization and spriritual evolution. Two names: David Wilcock and Ben Fulford.

As much as GN may have undergone drastic and positive changes, his profile is one we have seen before here. A spook who is involved in the usual New Age stuff. He strikes me as someone who was a part of the Hall of Mirrors.