On Edwin Kaiser and Related Topics

[LR Trotter]

Although after the fact, it was rumored a JFK assassination attempt had been planned for 11/21/'63 in Houston, along the route from the airport in southeast Houston, to the downtown area and Rice Hotel. However, an actual attempt does not appear to be likely, other than an attempt to establish another potential patsy. Or, maybe the additional patsy establishment was the reason for the rumor. There was not a slow moving motorcade, nor a zig-zag issue in an easy to recognize dark blue Lincoln limousine. Actually, the nearby highway intersection was/is a blend, and not at all slow. So, a rumor is feasible, but an actual attempt seems quite unlikely. Unless the planned attempt was for a shot to be fired, and of course a miss.

This is certainly not new to me, I overlooked Houston. It certainly wouldn't have been a good place for the assassination. It may suggest why George H.W. Bush and Captain Williams of the Defense Intelligence were provided the substance of the foregoing information that was orally furnished to the Agency on November 23, 1963, the day after Jack's assassination, perhaps, to give Bush an alibi while saying he stayed in Tyler TX? When we already know Bush was at the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas. And, he blames JAMES PARROTT for a possible assassination plot on Kennedy, however, it didn't work. Why?

Perhaps;

They were already fixated on another [pasty,] Oswald may be?

Although I am somewhat familiar with James Parrott report story, the rumored planned attempt on 11/21/'63 involved another potential patsy. And, it is my conclusion that it was in place in case of a problem establishing a Dallas area patsy. JMO. FWIW.

As my mother always says, should've, could've and would've, but didn't.

Sense you appear to know of a plot I've not heard of, but James, and I admit it. I'm still waiting to hear from you or anyone else, a simple answer to a question. Have you or anyone reading this post heard about the New York plot? I understand if all I get is evasive answers.

​In a word, NO!

[Scott Kaiser]

This is certainly not new to me, I overlooked Houston. It certainly wouldn't have been a good place for the assassination. It may suggest why George H.W. Bush and Captain Williams of the Defense Intelligence were provided the substance of the foregoing information that was orally furnished to the Agency on November 23, 1963, the day after Jack's assassination, perhaps, to give Bush an alibi while saying he stayed in Tyler TX? When we already know Bush was at the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas. And, he blames JAMES PARROTT for a possible assassination plot on Kennedy, however, it didn't work. Why?

Perhaps;

They were already fixated on another [pasty,] Oswald may be?

Although I am somewhat familiar with James Parrott report story, the rumored planned attempt on 11/21/'63 involved another potential patsy. And, it is my conclusion that it was in place in case of a problem establishing a Dallas area patsy. JMO. FWIW.

As my mother always says, should've, could've and would've, but didn't.

Sense you appear to know of a plot I've not heard of, but James, and I admit it. I'm still waiting to hear from you or anyone else, a simple answer to a question. Have you or anyone reading this post heard about the New York plot? I understand if all I get is evasive answers.

​In a word, NO!

As a student, you. Because, I never claimed to be a researcher or a student, perhaps, its a reason Dawn kept implying I don't know anything, but that's neither here nor there. Perhaps, you should ask your teacher about such a plot, learn everything you can from it. Then get back to me, that's all I'm going to say. Mark my words, a promise is a promise.

When everyone starts to write about it in the future, don't forget where you first heard it from. That would be from the greatest patriot that ever lived. They don't know it yet, but, after they killed him, they made a martyr out of him.

[Scott Kaiser]

No assumptions, no theories and no opinions, just facts.

A quote by someone from another board:

[FONT=&amp]On or about 1 September 1962, G. Gordon Liddy retired from the FBI and went to work for his father's law firm on Wall Street in New York City, where he would remain, primarily, into sometime in 1965bracketing the Kennedy assassination. [/FONT]

When I tried to make contact with Mr. Liddy sometime ago about the information I discovered he shutdown his facebook and he shutdown his radio station, as if this wasn't suspicious enough?

For some reason he had to remember Kaiser, and why would Kaiser's son be contacting him?

Edwin Kaiser had photographic copies, photographs of G. Gordon Liddy, Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis and [others,] who were the others? What other photographs did Mr. Kaiser have? Through an exhaustive investigation, it has been discovered that Mr. Kaiser also had photographs of Barnard Barker and David Morales.

These photographs were stolen from the CIA in 1971, so... That would be [prior] to Watergate, Watergate hadn't happened yet. Get it?

If one more person says to me show them the photos or it didn't happen, I will reply. They are the most ignorant people on this plant, or they simply don't know how to comprehend reliable information.

Liddy, nor could anyone sue me for telling the truth, all they can do is hide.

[Scott Kaiser]

For some reason he had to remember Kaiser, and why would Kaiser's son be contacting him?

Did he think it would never happen, I would never contact him? Did every other three letter agency think I believed my father's death was an accident? Are they stupid or something? They obliviously didn't know Edwin's son.

[Peter Lemkin]

David Morales was up to his eyebrows in the Assassination. Some of the others you name might have also been lesser players. It would be my guess that all of them knew what really 'went down' in Dallas and a LOT of other Ops. When you say 'had photos', I assume you don't mean of them standing on a beach, in their garden, sitting in a chair, etc....but that the 'photos' of these persons told a 'story' of what they were connected to at a certain time and place; or perhaps who they were connected with at that time and place. Has any of your research gotten you any indication of what the photos were about re: persons/time/place? And if so, how did you come to know this; and if you believe it, how can you convince others. I admit that the untimely murder of your father seems to indicate he was in possession of some knowledge and/or items others preferred he not have or be able to give to anyone else. The question is what knowledge and/or items and how to make a logical argument others will concede is true or likely true over other possible explanations.

[Scott Kaiser]

but that the 'photos' of these persons told a story of what they were connected to at a certain time and place; perhaps who they were connected with at that time and place. Has any of your research gotten you any indications of what the photos were about re: persons/time/place?

Yes! Those photos are unequivocally the photos of these men standing outside a motel in Dallas on the day of Kennedy's assassination, now... I'm not saying that any of these men killed Kennedy, nor am I saying they were there in a plot to kill Kennedy. I have never said that to avoid a law suit, my only question is/was, just what were these men doing in Dallas the day Kennedy was killed, and I could get no answer from Liddy.

And, yes... It is the honest to God truth, I could care less what people want to believe, but my father did have their photos. This is what kept my father alive for a little while anyways.

[Scott Kaiser]

how did you come to know this

From the man who drove my father to the CIA's headquarters in Miami Beach, where my father stole the photos, and where he was killed. You had to of known that when JM/WAVE came to a close, the CIA moved their headquarters to Miami Beach on a much more scaled down operation.

As far as convincing anyone, I can only offer up what I know, I can careless what people think about the information I give them.

[Scott Kaiser]

he was in possession of some knowledge and/or items others preferred he not have or be able to give to anyone else

That's not true, he, (my father) did give this information to Nino Diaz, Aldo Vera and Richard Poyle. The evidence my father had, he also gave to Rudy, and many others who within the community knew who had the photos, it's not like my father kept it a secret.

[The question is what knowledge and/or items and how to make a logical argument] others will concede is true or likely true over other possible explanations.

I already did, I don't need others to do it for me. I don't care if others will concede if the information is true, likely true, or not, that's none of my concern.

[Scott Kaiser]

Just one more thing I'd like to point out. I didn't know about Hemming passing away, then again how could I if I didn't follow up on anyone from my father's past until later in life?

Someone from another form says,

[FONT=&amp]I can't emphasize enough the importance of actually listening to Hemmings taped interviews before making judgments about his credibility.[/FONT]

He can't possibly be serious can he? I argued with that guys son, and got no where other than proving to myself he's no different than his father. Not everything Hemming would say is bullshit, there is some truth to his stories when he's in trouble and needs to get out of it, for example, when he was under investigation for drug smuggling, we knew it was true, but the government let him go because there's information the government at that time didn't want to release like.

"Reports referring to Watergate figure Frank Sturgis aka Fiorini and Ed Kaiser from 1971 to 1972 given to the FBI and the ATF at Miami." This is just one of many questions Hemming presented to the government.

Or, this statement from Hemming;

"Reports to the U.S. Secret Service at Miami field office which were later passed in to Federal Bureau of Investigations, Central Intelligence Agency, Office of Naval Intelligence, Office of Special Investigations (U.S.A.P.,) U.S. Army Intelligence or Counterintelligence, U.S. Customs Service, et al., with reference to a conspiracy by U.S. and foreign nationals to assassinate President Richard Nixon at Key Biscayne, Miami, Florida, from September to November of 1970."

Or, this one:

Reports referring to an operation conducted by Cuban exiles (anti-Castro) to extract Soviet missile technicians and officers from Oriente, Province, Cuba from February to April of 1963, resulting in the loss of entire commando team to enemy action, (aka the Bayo-Pawley mission.)

But!

This was the real Jerry Hemming, the same guy Mark adores so much!

Jerry Patrick Hemming, a phony American military leader. He once owned Miami, guerrilla-wise until they caught on to him. Good example of this man is that he turned in Little Joe (one of his own men) to the FBI for the reward. The FBI threw him out. Also famous in Miami for selling arms that didn't work, explosives that didn't explode, and arms from the U.S. army reserve. (Don't believe a word he says.) His group was called "Patrick's Raiders." He would always call U.S. Customs and informed upon themselves before they went on a raid so they would be caught and wouldn't have to go, but still enjoyed the money of their backers (Right-wing, Texans) Now- residing in L.A. and running around with Lawrence Howard Jr., training right-wingers. Cannot ever return to Miami or will be shot on sight.

[Scott Kaiser]

I'm not sure why I posted the above when I meant to post the blow, but that's okay, that still questions the credibility of both Hemming and that guy defending his conversations with Hemming. I believe he's defending more his conversation then Hemming himself, after all that is how one reacts when their full of vanity.

The post I meant to share was;

[FONT=&amp]can you, or anyone else, say whether or not you have any confidence in Weberman's claim that Seymour Weitzman identified Bernard Barker as a fake Secret Service agent on the Grassy Knoll?[/FONT]

For the record, it wasn't Weberman, it was Canfield, and... Weitzman's testimony to the Dallas police department, WC and the HSCA including Canfield all remain [identical,] anyone saying otherwise is basing their opinion off their hypothesis, and lastly. My father had Barker's photograph. I'd say, this ties in with what actually happened in Dallas.