Albert, I translated / phrased it "productive action", you phrased it "something that does something" -- what is the something that is done? IOW: what is accomplished? A salute? Maybe I can get Little Orphan Annie's decoder ring next Saturday and be sure to buy my Ovaltine, as well. I know it seems that Mr. Prior is being harshly criticized, but this is a war zone. If a combatant was really aware that he was engaged in an actual battle, yet came to the field to aid his new comrades with a weapon that was incapable of hurting the enemy would he be met with open arms and a hardy slap on the back? I think not. Better for the novice to be initiated in Boot Camp than in the trenches.
This is a revolution, Mr. Prior. A revolution of mind. It is not the typical revolution involving violence, nor does it involve the change of any government. It is a revolution that must first take place internally. Only then can the message be heard and take root externally.
I like Mark's four finger salute because it penetrates the overweaponized Homeland defenses in an almost Gandhian way. I guess what I'm saying here is something is better than nothing.
No offense intended IF it is a sincere suggestion, but in my years of political action, that is as close to nothing as 'something' gets. The enemy will NOT be using hand signals, but tazers, CS and BZ gas, sound cannons, flashbangs, buckshot, perhaps live rounds, shields and battons, judo action...etc..... Ya'll have fun high-fouring them!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Albert Doyle Wrote:A method that won Gandhi India.
"Innocence" should never be attacked in its entirety.
Learn your history before making such comments. While I have NOTHING against passive non-violence - it must have real meaning and involve real action. Gandhi did not use cute little insipid hand signals nor any equivalent. Nor did Martin Luther King. Nor did Rosa Parks. Nor did Mother Jones. Et al. Get real or be surreal.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
I'm not trying to get on the good side of Mr Drago, or Mr Dragoo, but for what it's worth I am sold on the ABSOLUT LEE NOT slogan as pictured with the TSBD, referred to in picture, and aka TSB Distillery in the post. But, it says a lot. And, likely more than I read. However, the message is quite clear.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:While I have NOTHING against passive non-violence - it must have real meaning and involve real action.
Peter,
Would you please provide a specific example? I would like to know your thoughts on a specific activity, if you were hypothetically planning it, to occur in Dealey Plaza on the 50th anniversary.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:While I have NOTHING against passive non-violence - it must have real meaning and involve real action.
Peter,
Would you please provide a specific example? I would like to know your thoughts on a specific activity, if you were hypothetically planning it, to occur in Dealey Plaza on the 50th anniversary.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Albert Doyle Wrote:A method that won Gandhi India.
"Innocence" should never be attacked in its entirety.
Learn your history before making such comments. While I have NOTHING against passive non-violence - it must have real meaning and involve real action. Gandhi did not use cute little insipid hand signals nor any equivalent. Nor did Martin Luther King. Nor did Rosa Parks. Nor did Mother Jones. Et al. Get real or be surreal.
Mark Prior Wrote:Albert is right about that, Peter.
You and Albert are not getting it, Mark.
Gandhi's choices to wear homespun and to depict himself spinning it were deeply semiotic in nature, development, and delivery. They amounted to profound, multi-layered commentaries on a host of relevant issues.
Your too-cute-by-half, fact-challenged four-finger salute, it may be argued, is none of the above.
Greg Burnham Wrote:But notice. A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea. Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes!
As an aside, this phenomenon supports the "morphic resonance/fields" hypothesis of biologist Rupert Sheldrake.
