To me, no matter his pain, Michael would not want to leave the 'message' a suicide would have left to his listeners and friends. It would not fit the philosophy/consciousness-growth he was actively involved in.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Pete, that public statement you've linked of Rupperts was from nearly 20 years ago. If his comments bothered the CIA that much at the time to organise a retaliatory hit I'd presume they would have done it well before now.
Carolyn Baker -
"I understand the reaction to assume that this was an assassination. It was not. Mike was in terrible emotional pain. I know that because he confided in me every few days. Yes, on the outside, things looked pretty good. On the inside he was in hell. He has spoken of suicide on countless occasions and declared that he actually moved to Colorado too commit suicide which of course he did not. What we need now is not to be posturing with speculation. We need to be grieving our guts out for this loss and all of the losses of this planet."
Ruppert's colleague Jenna Orkin begins her statement - "We always knew it could come to this."
Ruppert's attorney Wesley Miller:
""The hardest part of this, for me, is that everything I did with or for Mike was in an effort to prevent this day from ever happening. Collapse Net was literally formed to provide a means for Mike to make a living. In doing so, he was brought back into a world of despair that he thought he had retired from. He absorbed the pain of the world on a daily basis until he could not take it any longer, and he left CollapseNet when it got to be too much. But that pain kept following him, and there is nothing that anyone could do about [it]for him.He told me many times that Jenna saved his life after Venezuela. I reached out to him in 2009 to help resurrect his career and his honor, and help get him back on his feet again. I know his death is not on me, but I still can't help feeling, unlike his experience with Jenna, that I failed…or that by "helping" him, it merely brought him back on his path of self-destruction."
I'm open to the notion that Ruppert was whacked if any evidence whatsoever circa the event - suspicious sounds, a witness, strange people leaving his building, a getaway car burning rubber after the sound of a gunshot - is uncovered. At this point though pretty much every statement from those close to him is suggesting that Ruppert was in a fragile state and had been speaking repeatedly of ending things, making it a genuine possibility that this 'suicide' was one that doesn't require quotation marks around it. I agree with you nonetheless that Ruppert's state of mind was partially determined by a years-long effort on the part of numerous authorities and agencies to make him suffer for his investigative bravery.
16-04-2014, 01:29 PM (This post was last modified: 27-04-2014, 02:53 PM by Dawn Meredith.)
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Listening to his last show, I frankly heard utter desperation and despair.
Whether he shot himself or was "suicided" the powers that be murdered him. He was a good cop who the CIA tried to grab in the 70's to assist in the drug business. He would spend the remainder of his life trying to get out the message. People like him are heroes to us, but so marginalized by society that the resulting depression can be unmanagable.
Peter, his dog is being adopted by I believe his landlord.
16-04-2014, 04:48 PM (This post was last modified: 16-04-2014, 05:55 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
I guess it might be so....though still hard to believe from what I heard in his last shows. This was just posted on his website....one of two suicide letters. The other to his partner will not be released.
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"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Listening to his last show, I frankly heard utter desperation and despair.
There's definitely a morbid stress in his voice to the point of crackling. Around 55:00 he says this was a very important show (because it will be his last?)
I wouldn't doubt that CIA has advanced MK-ULTRA to the point of subliminal suggestion technology capable of unconsciously driving someone to kill themselves. There's no time limit to that group's need to create bad ends to those they target.
Quote:This week, the Global Research News Hour pays tribute to Mr. Ruppert on the occasion of his recent tragic death.
The podcast contains audio from past speeches and a previously recorded conversation with him, as well as post-mortem conversations with five individuals who knew and worked with Mike Ruppert over the years.
Carolyn Baker is a long-time acquaintance of Mike Ruppert's. She was an adjunct professor of history and psychology for 11 years and a psychotherapist in private practice for 17 years. She authored several books related to the concept of societal collapse. She contributed to Ruppert's on-line newsletter From The Wilderness, and co-hosted his final radio broadcast before he died.
Kellia Ramares-Watson is an Oakland-based independent journalist and broadcaster. She was Bonnie Faulkner's co-host on the very first broadcast of Guns and Butter for radio station KPFA back on October 12, 2001. This debut episode featured none other than Mike Ruppert with his initial impressions of the 9/11 attacks and the US role in failing to prevent the attacks. The transcript of that interview is available on the Global Research website.
Wesley Miller was Mike Ruppert's attorney, executor and personal friend. He replaced Ruppert as CEO and President of COLLAPSENET, the on-line community portal for individuals and communities seeking to transition away from a dependence on fossil fuels and industrial civilization.
Barrie Zwicker is a long-time independent journalist and media critic. He became one of the first people in the world to publicly critique the official story of 9/11 on a national television broadcast. Barrie was largely for getting RUppert's analysis of 9/11 aired on Canadian television and paid tribute to him in his 2006 book Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11.
Guy McPherson is Professor Emeritus of Natural Resources and Ecology & Evolutionary Biology at the University of Arizona. He has appeared on Ruppert's radio show a number of times pioneering his research pointing to the prospects for the Near Term Extinction of the human species due to climate change.
Ruppert's work has appeared often over the years on the Global Research website. A link to some of those stories can be found here.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Listening to his last show, I frankly heard utter desperation and despair.
I beg to differ. I've listened to the last show several times. It is NOT IMHO the voice or show of someone who a few [very few] hours later is going to kill themselves. Yes, he is in despair about the state of the US and the World - but that was not new - and he had an outlet for his despair and presented hopeful paths, speakers and inciteful analysis on many levels. I still find it hard to believe he'd be able to keep his composure on that show; speak about the things he did; and say he'd 'see' everyone next week...and then go home and within an hour or two shoot himself in the head. To me is doesn't make sense. Someone planning that would be so much in distress they'd either NOT do the show - or make the show a very special one that would contain their last messages within it. Anyone who can see what is going on and who has been through the ringer for telling truth to power suffers some level of distress. Anyway, the memorial should be interesting....there is a link to it on the Global Research article. It has been a bad month for loosing important researchers.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass