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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line
Laterally, for some reason, I'm reminded of k.t. Frankovich's harrowing account of the behaviour of military types in the aftermath of Hurricane Andrew.

The entire first person account deserves to be read.

However, it is k.t.'s description of life in an armed police / military / FEMA lockdown that has floated into my consciousness:

Quote:So what actually did take place when Andrew survivors tried to get help from those collecting dead bodies in the aftermath? Well, I for one can give a firsthand account. About the third day into the aftermath, a long line of police cars cautiously drove into my area during the late afternoon. We had not had contact with any other people from outside the devastation up until this point. There were approximately 12 to 15 police cars comprising this caravan, each marked from different locations throughout the state. Each car was driven by a man dressed in a dark police uniform and had three other plain-clothed men riding as passengers, making a total of four men in each vehicle.

Someone from our group spotted the caravan and ran to get me, knowing that I had been badly injured and that I urgently needed emergency medical help. My twenty-five-year old son and one other adult male survivor, helped escort me to the caravan. We hurried toward the lead car. It stopped moving when we approached the driver's side. The officer sitting behind the wheel rolled down the window. For a few moments he rudely ignored us, at one point giving us an impatient look of disgust.

This is the exact conversation and course of events that took place.

"Please sir, I need medical help," I begged, barely able to speak.

The officer sitting behind the wheel sighed heavily. He turned his head away from me and gazed out his windshield. The other three men in the car quietly looked at me.

"Sir, please, I need to get to a hospital!..." I begged frantically.

The officer took his time about reaching over to turn off the engine. With another sigh, he slowly opened the door and climbed out. He then proceeded to close the door and stood there with his legs spread astride.

"Lady, do me a favor," he answered. "Find yourself a piece of paper and a pencil. Write down your name and social security number next to the telephone number of your nearest living relative. Tuck the piece of paper in your pocket so tomorrow when I find your body, I'll know who to contact."

"No!... No!" I cried out. "You don't understand. I need to get to a hospital. I've been badly injured."

"No! You're the one who doesn't understand," he hissed back. With that, he reached over to his holster and took out his gun. He grabbed me, forcing me up against the side of the car, and proceeded to put the barrel of the gun against my temple. I heard the hammer cock.

From the position he had pushed me into, I could see directly into the car. The man sitting in the front passenger seat looked away from me immediately, glancing down at the floor. The two passengers in the back seat turned their heads quickly, staring out the window on the opposite side of the car.

My son and the other survivor watched as the officer had pulled back the hammer on the gun. So shocked out of their minds by what they were witnessing, neither one could move!

"You don't belong here!" the officer growled, pressing the barrel into the side of my head. "Now you get the hell outta here before I blow away your ass!" He shoved my face into the car window and then released me.
Someone grabbed me from behind and whirled me around so fast, I didn't have time to think! Before I knew it, I was being thrown over their shoulder. They took off running as fast as they could! I caught a brief glimpse of my son running next to me. With one gigantic leap, he and the survivor who carried me, dove behind a pile of debris! All three of us crashed on top of each other in one tangled up heap.

"I'll shoot your damn asses!" the officer's voice rang out.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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This thing smacks of false flag.


Their aunt was on TV saying they were "set-up". One of the reporters quickly said "You mean by people with an agenda and not the government?"


Why was the reporter so interested in dismissing the possibility of it being the government so quickly?
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Have a look at post #168...

Why the fascist show of such force for one 19 year old?
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Worthwhile article by Christopher Bollyn on the attack, and the uses of the varied players seen in the crowd photographs.


THE BOSTON BOMBINGS - "TERROR IS THEATRE"

http://www.bollyn.com/#article_14053
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Laterally, for some reason, I'm reminded of k.t. Frankovich's harrowing account of the behaviour of military types in the aftermath of Hurricane Andrew.

The entire first person account deserves to be read.

However, it is k.t.'s description of life in an armed police / military / FEMA lockdown that has floated into my consciousness:
/snip
Confusedhutup:Confusedhock: Disposable people. Disgusting. I note that vast difference in the way these bodies from Hurricane Andrew were treated, like some embarrassing rubbish to be disposed of asap, to those bodies of the 911 victims which had DNA testing to identify them and match them with their families.
So different in Cuba where they value human lives and have a well established plan for helping people when the hurricanes come as they do often in that part of the world. Lots of warning and lots of help to secure property and valuables in bunker type storage. All property repairs afterwards are free and of course free health care for any injuries which is rare any way because people are not left to fend for themselves but provided with safe refuge for the duration with plenty of supplies.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Assuming that most of the media reports are rubbish... I am thinking now that these guys were on the radar of intel and may have been recruited by them... obviously given money... and were to play the part of terrorists at the marathon. Intel decided, of course to turn them into patsies in order to ramp up the terror and advance fascism. So the hired paramilitaries placed the live bombs and these kids realized they had been set up and took off. So do they have guns and bombs or not? No way of actually knowing. Are there any witnesses to the gun battle with the older brother? But having weapons is easy peasy in the US anyway... so maybe these kids DID have some. One will never talk and the other seems to be almost toast. He too will never talk after he's killed in a hail of bullets and then the narrative about how they were sleeper cells for islamic terrorists which will now be the call for the US to invade the Caucuses...

I wanna know what those private security guys were doing there.
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Jeffrey Orling Wrote:I wanna know what those private security guys were doing there.
They don't work for free. There will be some one who ordered their services and paid for them. But don't expect the MSM to go there.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Suspect now in custody.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:Fox News reports a 7 mile no fly zone imposed for under 3000 feet over Boston area currently under lockdown.

Whoever these 'suspects' are or are not, most are not paying enough attention to the freedoms being taken away from ordinary citizens. OK, five have been killed - lets make it six and they [THEY] say one aged 19 is out there alone. Does he have stinger missiles to shoot down planes? Bioweapons to lockdown a whole city? Nukes? I used to live in NYC and there were many days a killer was on the loose; but city life went on as usual - except in the very area the police were operating. This is both bizarre and once it is 'acquiesced to' by the public, it will become the norm every time.....you heard it here. The 'rachet' that is ratcheting away our freedoms moves in only one direction. Unless we fight back and resist. This is about more than two brothers - be they bombers or patsies.

Get this...rather than search their home in Cambridge and learn who they are, what might be in their home and computer, etc. They are planning shortly on blowing up their home [the excuse is it is probably booby-trapped] - and destroying all evidence. I say they are patsies and the controlled explosion of their home [and their being shot - one down, one to go] is a Ruby rubout of LHO in modern form.



Quote:Looming Cyber-Security Bill Could Have Spoiled Reddit's Boston Investigation

Flickr/SklathillWhen the FBI came out Thursday with a [B]few blurry images
and asked for "help" identifying the subjects, they were asking Reddit.

Put more simply, they were asking the Internet to help them find the suspects.
And the Internet answered: within a few hours of the FBI's release of these images, the Reddit hive-mind produced a much clearer image of the suspected bomber.
Then, as if that weren't enough, Reddit placed the suspected bomber in the same frame as 8 year-old victim Martin Richard, with a bag that looked an awful lot like the one the FBI was trying to identify.
So basically, in this grisly game of Clue, Reddit did the FBI's job for them: all in one spot, killer, murder weapon, victim, and the scene of the crime.
Now here's the kicker the FBI is among the top groups lobbying the government and private web companies for more surveillance over the internet, ie. CISPA, a bill which just passed the House, may pass the Senate, and may cross Obama's desk.
As we've covered before, CISPA "authorizes federal agencies to conduct warrantless searches of information they obtain from e-mail and Internet providers," as explained by Declan McCullough of CNET.
Part of the reason for CISPA is that massive companies are hemoraging proprietary information, through the likes of hackers conducting cyber espionage. Some of these hackers are state-sanctioned, others are downright criminal.
It goes without mentioning that Redditors, and the Internet cesspool dwellers on 4Chan,hackers of all colour, despise this piece of legislation.
Why? Because CISPA would unmask the Internet. Without anonymity, without hacker handles, without online alter egos, there is no image of Martin Richard next to the bomb and the bomber.
Granted, Reddit spurred a few false leads rumours about missing Brown student Sunil Tripathiand various people carrying bags at the Marathon, but the consensus seems to be that Reddit helped more than it hurt.
Because they can operate freely, without recourse, Anonymous and Reddit and 4Chan can crowdsource information gathering. Stripping them of their online identities though essentially killing the Internet hive mind would remove the barrier under which these folks operate.
They've proven that they can operate for ill, but their operations for good match the ill by tenfold. Even amongst the trolls, Internet dwellers as a single body, the hive-mind, has an acute sense of justice and injustice.
Gabriella Coleman said "geeks are the new guardians of our civil liberties."
Extinguishing that moral compass simply because Bank of America or Lockheed Martin arelosing proprietary information to the Chinese is a dangerous course of action.
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http://au.businessinsider.com/boston-bom...spa-2013-4

Quote:Lawmakers Cite Boston Bombing, WikiLeaks "Hacking" as Reasons to Pass CISPA

By Ryan Gallagher
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Posted Friday, April 19, 2013, at 4:23 PM



Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., is in favor of CISPA
Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images



North Korean hackers and the Boston bombings might not appear to have much in common. But not according to some American lawmakers, who are using both to justify passing a controversial cybersecurity bill that civil liberties advocatesclaim "undermines the privacy of millions of Internet users."

Yesterday, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA, was approved by the House of Representatives by a vote of 288 to 127. The law was first introduced in 2011 andapproved last year by the House, though it died in the Senate after an outpouring of opposition from privacy and civil liberties groups. But it has been resurrected and is heading to the Senate for the second time. Predictably, the storm of criticism has also reappeared. Rights groups have consistently raised concerns over how CISPA would allow corporations to pass unanonymized user data to federal government agencies for vaguely defined "cybersecurity" purposesand be covered by full legal indemnity when doing so.

The ACLU has described CISPA as an "extreme proposal" that "forges new ground." The Electronic Frontier Foundation says it "would provide a gaping exception to bedrock privacy law." And even the White House has criticized the bill, earlier this weekthreatening to veto it unless it is amended to include better privacy and civil liberties safeguards.

But yesterday, when the House was debating the contentious bill, CISPA advocates didn't seem to be paying attention to any of those issues. Rep. Mike McCaul, R-Texas, cited the Boston bombings while arguing for CISPA to be adopted. "In the case of Boston, they were real bombs," McCaul said, adding that we also need to arm ourselves against "digital bombs. These bombs are on their way." Similarly apocalyptic statements were made by Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., who made no mention of Boston, though argued that CISPA was needed to stop hackers in countries like Iran and North Korea from crippling American infrastructure and causing the destruction of American jobs. Rep. Dan Maffei, D-N.Y., even used the debate to take aim at WikiLeaks, bizarrely claiming CISPA was needed to stop the whistleblowing website from pursuing efforts to "hack into our nation's power grid."


In the aftermath of tragic events or amid heightened global tensions, it's hardly unusual for lawmakers to make emotive appeals in pursuit of new national security powers. Public opinion in the aftermath of a distressing terror attack in particular can sway citizens in favor of handing the authorities more intrusive surveillance powers, as occurred in most Western democracies in the aftermath of 9/11 (the Patriot Act being just one example). In the case of CISPA, however, it is tenuous in the extreme to draw sweeping links between cyberattacks and pressure-cooker bombs tearing through a Boston street, or cyberattacks and WikiLeaks, or cyberattacks and whatever else is agitating U.S. lawmakers on a given day. Exploiting every perceived threat to counter a push for greater CISPA privacy protections is brazenly cynicaland, I'd argue, ultimately doomed to fail.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/...assed.html

Some interesting matters in the comments to this link:http://www.legitgov.org/US-House-sociopa...sses-CISPA
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Well, I was wrong on their intent to kill the other 'suspect'.....he is apparently expected to recover from his gunshot wounds. All who knew him say he was nice, a bit shy, well-adapted to life in America - apparently here since he was a young child - and NOT the type of person to do something like this or use any kind of weapon. I hope he gets a fair trial and there is a REAL investigation. The three-letter agencies are experts at setting people up to make it look as if some crime were that person's [s'] idea - when it was the idea of the three-letter agency. We now have the unchallenged precedent of an entire city told to stay inside with the doors locked and police/military going home to home searching each! Frogs in water coming to a slow boil?
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