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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line
Good one Adele! What a sinister Nation!.....but we can't ignore it - have to tackle it head on...or else...!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Yep, FBI computers can't reconcile spelling 'mistakes'. Unlike google. Do they expect us to believe this crap?

It's even worse that that.

The dominant Chechen alphabet is Cyrillic

/snip

It is completely preposterous to claim that an intelligence agency translation system from the Cyrllic into English would not automatically accommodate different translations and renderings.
Yep. And there is no ambiguity at all in the Cyrillic spelling of their names.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:We've got one of those wandering imams called 'Misha' the Armenian.

Quote:Boston marathon attack: How radical websites and mystery man 'Misha' turned Tamerlan Tsarnaev to terror
  • From: News Limited Network
  • April 24, 2013 11:55AM
  • Uncle says Muslim convert 'Misha' brainwashed Tamerlan
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, mastermind of the Boston bombings, had been influenced by radical Islamic websites and a red-bearded convert called Misha. Picture: Splash Australia

How many bald red bearded Russian named Armenian radical Islamic converts who do exorcisms and remove demons from people's bodies can there be wandering around Boston? Or any where for that matter....

Laura Rozen, National Security journo, is trying to pin him as being a Russian plant but it smells more like a well worn home grown MO to me.
Quote:total speculation. but could Misha be the kind of mole Russia plants to keep eye on emigre communities of concern? http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bomb-suspect-influenced-mysterious-radical …
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Some interesting things from AntiWar.com and some interesting comments there as well. Including from a Mikhail Teterin who says it is not him.
Quote:Who is "Misha"? Tamerlan Tsarnaev's Rasputin
Justin Raimondo, April 23, 2013


There have been a number of news accounts of Tamerlan's "mentor," a major influence on his path to jihad: the Uncle, Ruslan, has said his name is "Misha," and that he is an Armenian convert to Islam living in the Boston area, balding, with reddish hair, middle-aged looking. So far, he hasn't been turned up. But that may be coming to an end….
Laura Rozen, a crack reporter on the intelligence beat, recently tweeted a video off an Islamic web site about Armenian converts to Islam: here it is. The guy in the video, who is clearly instructing new recruits, fits the description: balding, with surviving follicles reddish, and older. She also tweeted this: a series of posts about the Islamic Society of Boston University, which she got by googling "Misha Islamic Society of Boston University" but found they had been deleted. Hmmm… what to do?
Well, I tried matches Misha's (click on his profile, and the web address comes up): the post consists of a single link to an old column by Bill Safire attacking the Soviet advance in Chechnya's war.
If you Google Mikhail's full name you get this, a defense of Chechen "freedom-fighters" from someone comparing them to the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993:
"Was there a single explosion made by Chechen freedom fighters
(terrorists) in Moscow? Spare those organized by Chechen mafia…
By very modest estimates, Russia killed 30000 people in Chechnya,
AFAIK. How many have died in World Trade Center explosion? (rather
weak, but still…)

"Do not even bring this up, there is not a shadow of analogy."
pops up in a discussion labeled "Orion Group,, Satanism, NWO, and ruling elite.'" The header exhorts the reader: "Do not carry the poison of evil within yourself." Here he makes the argument that assassinations are not terrorism."
There's lots more, especially
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Uncle Ruslan's ties to Halliburton is the Rosetta Stone for understanding the Boston attack.
Quote:Out on the ragged bleeding edge of the former Soviet Union, Ruslan Tsarni had a decade-long business relationship with Halliburton, the multinational juggernaut run by Dick Cheney before he became Vice President of the United States.

Delving into the business connections of "Uncle Ruslan" Tsarni, as he became known after his well-received condemnation of the atrocities allegedly committed by his nephews Dzhokhar and Tamerlan at the Boston Marathon has led to the discovery of the Rosetta Stone of the Boston Marathon bombing.
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Like the elaborately carved stone unearthed almost 200 years ago which led to deciphering ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, digging through Ruslan Tsarni's curiculum vitae has yielded clues to unlocking the puzzling riddles left behind after last week's attack.

Two oil fields with a side of natural gas, please

[Image: USAID-CIA.jpg]Reported first here two days ago, there has already been a big surprise in Ruslan Tsarni's background: Tsarni did a two-year stint, beginning in 1992, as a "consultant" for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), in the former Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan.

At a time when vast natural resources and enormous fortunes were in play' during the economic free-for-all after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the 24-year old Tsarni was already a player.'

Its long been an open secret that USAID is often used overseas to house CIA and other US intelligence operatives.

Oddly enough, just six months ago the country competing with the US for influence in the region, Vladimir Putin's Russia, unceremoniously kicked USAID out of Russia for, Putin spokesmen alleged, encouraging his political opposition.
[Image: Uncle-Ruslon-300x190.gif]However Ruslan's involvement with USAID, while suggestive, might still be irrelevant, were it not for the discovery of his decade-long involvement with companies in the orbit of the Sun God, Halliburton, which stands accused in numerous and increasingly-credible accounts as "lead dog" in an invading force of "non-state actors."

All of this, mind, was in support of a noble cause. We were fighting communism. No, wait? We weren't anymore.

Still, we must have been fighting something. Wait. It'll come to me…Maybe it was a push to weaken Russia's grip over former Soviet Republics. That sounds like an admirable goal. Alas, the means chosen to achieve it involved providing covert U.S. support, in Chechnya, to Islamic terrorists.

Haven't we all already see that movie? No one with a functioning heart could be anxious to see it again. But, wait! Does Dick have a functioning heart?

Friends Dick never got around to shooting

[Image: Big-Al1-251x300.gif]All was in readiness for the launch of a deniable covert op (the best kind). In April 2005, Ruslan Tsarni was named an officer in an oil company in Kazakhstan, being run at the time by a man named S.A. (Al) Sehsuvaroglu.

Sehsuvaroglu had somewhat inexplicably left behind a 25-year career as a top executive at Dick Cheney's Halliburtonhis last job was as Senior Account Manager, Caspian Region; and Country Director, Kazakhstanand had, just three months before 'Uncle Ruslan' was hired, taken over a penny stock oil play called Big Sky Energy Corp (OTCBB:BSKO.OB).

Big Al and Uncle Ruslan already knew each other. Both men did time at Nelsen Resources, yet-another Halliburton-connected oilfield company active in Kazakhstan.

Even before that, Tsarni had landed, between 1999 and 2001, at Golden Eagle Partners LLC in Kazakhstan. Golden Eagle worked so closely with Halliburton, reported London's Financial Times, that both firms were convicted of collusion to breach confidentiality agreements.

For Uncle Ruslan, who was Golden Eagle's Head of Legal Affairs, it would have been, bery much, a case of "my bad."
[Image: lest-we1-300x190.gif]In a story headlined "Halliburton ethics called into question," on Jun 22, 2004, London's Financial Times reported that both companies had been convicted in Federal Court and fined a total of $70 million.

"At a time when Halliburton is being charged with immoral and even illegal business practices in countries ranging from Iraq to Nigeria," the paper reported, "a close reading of the court documents provides a disturbing backdrop."

Moreover the questionable business practices for which Halliburton was convicted took place under Dick Cheney, who court documents revealed had been very aware of what his minions like Ruslan Tsarni at Golden Eagle had been doing on his behalf.

These were not, to put it kindly, self-made men

[Image: sunil.jpg]Still, while militant Chechen groups have been blamed for terror attacks in the past, their targets have usually been Russia, their bitter foe in the aucasus wars.
So why is this line of inquiry crucially relevent to the Boston Marathon bombings?

Consider: In the last several months, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had posted videos to YouTube indicating his interest in radical Muslim ideologies.

Moreover the Tsarnaev brothers are of Chechen heritage, born into the cauldron of the Caucasus; into a war which quickly boiled over until it had engulfed Chechen separatists, Russian security forces, Islamic extremists, and organized crime.

Last Friday, U.S. authorities said they had no proof that anybody beyond the two Tsarnaev brothers was involved in the marathon attacks. But they were not done looking.
[Image: ch3ech-300x243.jpg]Then yesterday two law enforcement officials stated that they believe there is a "Chechen connection" to the bombings.

Ruslan Tsarni's personal and business background are in the same troubled regionChechnya and the former Soviet Republics collectively known as the Stansthat is crucial to piecing together the narrative of his two nephews in the Boston Marathon bombing.

And as an officer with decades of experience working with companies doing business in a highly-volatile region, it is fair to question how much of Ruslan Tsarni's impassioned rant against his nephews owed to shame for his family's disgrace, and how much to rage at having his past revealedas he had to have known it would bein an unflattering light.

A bleeding edge that really is…a bleeding edge

You can look for clues out on the ragged bleeding edge of the Russian Federation in troubled Dagestan, and prowl the back alleys of Makhachkala on the Caspian Sea.

Or you can look in Almaty, out on the wind-swept steppes of Kazakhstan.

Or poke around tiny Bishkek, capital of the little "Stan" that could, the one no one's ever heard of, Kyrgyzstan.

[Image: map_of_russian_federation_1.gif]
Or trek to Tokmok, home to a large ethnic Chechen community, where you can seek out the former home of Anzor Tsarnaev, sitting right next door to that country's top Mob Boss, a man named Aziz Batukaev, who to the surprise of no one locally, just secured his early release from prison.

And you can marvel that it truly is a small world after all, when a train of events set in motion 6200 miles east of Boston came to shut down a major American city and transfix an entire nation for an week.

But if you're the type that prefers to get your travel fix watching Michael Palin trekking across a wall-mounted 60' TV screen, you can turn your eyes to a man standing at the top of the driveway of a smart-looking $600,000 Federalist-style home in an upper-middle class planned community outside of Washington D.C.
Wearing blue jeans, flip-flops and a blue polo shirt, "Uncle Ruslan" Tsarni's vehement denunciation of his nephews won him thumbs up from everyone from Keith Olbermann on the left, who called him the "definition of a great American," to John Podhoretz on the right, who said "Ruslan Tsarni was the only good news of the week."

It seemed too good to be true. And it was.
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BOSTON TRUTH: The "Chechen Connection", Al Qaeda and the Boston Marathon Bombings
By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, April 22, 2013

Url of this article:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-trut...gs/5332337

Global Research Editor's Note

Global Research will be publishing a series of articles and reports with a view to promoting "Boston Truth". The underlying objective is to confront and challenge the official version of events concerning the Boston bombings as well as the twisted and convoluted interpretations of the mainstream media.

We invite our readers to endorse "Boston Truth" and spread the word on social media, independent media and blog sites.

Nine thousand heavily armed police including SWAT teams were deployed in a manhunt to capture a 19 year old student at U-Mass, after his brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the alleged Boston Marathon terror mastermind was shot dead by police allegedly after a car chase and shoot out with police.

Prior to the conduct of a police investigation, the 19-year old student has already been designated as "guilty". The fundamental legal principle of "innocence until proven guilty" has been scrapped. In the words of President Obama (a graduate of Harvard Law School), the Boston 19 year old student is "guilty" of heinous crimes (without evidence and prior to being charged in a court of law):

Too long to post.
To read more and see illustrations, please go to:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-trut...gs/5332337

Adele
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Now the officials [whoever they are] are telling the MSM [whoever they are] to tell us that not only the FBI, but also the CIA had been watching older brother Tsarnaev!!! The plot thickens! :darthvader:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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The "Global War on Terrorism" Mindset

The "war on terrorism" mindset builds a consensus: millions of Americans are led to believe that a militarized police apparatus is required to protect democracy. Little do they realize that the US government is the main source of terrorism both nationally and internationally.

The corporate media is Washington's propaganda arm, which consists in portraying Muslims as a threat to national security.

At this juncture in our history, at the crossroads of global economic and social crisis, the Boston bombings play a central role. They justify the Homeland Security State.

The evolving US Police State is thereby upheld as a means to protecting civil liberties. Under the guise of counter-terrorism, extrajudicial killings, the suspension of habeas corpus and torture are rightfully considered as a means to upholding the US Constitution.

At the same time, the terrorists created and supported by the CIA are used to participate in "False Flag" terrorist acts with a view to justifying the conduct of a global military crusade against Muslim countries, which so happen to be major oil producing economies.

"Massive Casualty Producing Events"

Former CENTCOM Commander, General Tommy Franks, who led the invasion of Iraq in 2003, had outlined a scenario of what he described as "a massive casualty producing event" on American soil, (a Second 9/11) . Implied in General Franks statement was the notion and belief that civilian deaths were necessary to raise awareness and muster public support for the "global war on terrorism".

"[A] terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event [will occur] somewhere in the Western world it may be in the United States of America that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event." (General Tommy Franks Interview, Cigar Aficionado, December 2003, emphasis added)

While the Boston bombings are of an entirely different nature to the "catastrophic event" alluded to by General Tommy Franks, the administration appears, nonetheless, to be committed to the logic of "militarizing our country" as a means to "protecting democracy."

The Boston events are already being used to galvanize public support for an extended domestic based counter-terrorism apparatus. The latter would be implemented alongside extrajudicial assassinations against so-called "homegrown self radicalized terrorists":

"U.S. counterterrorism policy has since 2001 focused largely on killing terrorists overseas or preventing them from getting into the U.S. But the Boston bombings show how the diffusion of terrorist tactics easily transcends borders. Countering small groups of individuals inside the U.S. can be a bedeviling assignment.

Bruce Riedel, director of the Intelligence Project at the Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan Washington think tank, said the Boston attack was likely a harbinger. "We are likely to see this as the future face of terrorist threats to the United States," he said, adding that the case of a small number of radicalized participants who have lived in the U.S. and execute a plot is "the counterterrorist community's worst nightmare, homegrown, self-radicalizing terrorism that learns its skill set off the Internet." (WSJ, April 20, op cit)

The "terrorist massive casualty-producing event" was upheld by General Franks as a crucial political turning point.

Do the Boston Bombings constitute a point of transition, a watershed which ultimately contributes to the gradual suspension of constitutional government?

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How clever of our secret agencies to create Al Qaeda with the help of Osama bin Laden in 1979. He was CIA, you know, fighting the Russians in Afghanistan along with the Mujahideens (early Talibans) who were trying to overturn the Afghan governmet which was friendly towards Russia. The US supported* the Mujahideens and bin Laden with guns and money, and Zbigniew Brzezinski, Security Adviser to President Jimmy Carter, bragged of his work and influence in bringing about the downfall of the Soviet government, weakened by fighting an arduous war for ten years in Afghanistan, the Russians' war that was their "Vietnam war".

We have had a habit of using certain elements to obtain economic domance for our commercial interests and in so doing, interferring in the political and cultural life of other nations. The role of our intelligence system, the CIA in particular, should have been restricted to only providing information to the President for policy-making purposes, as had been desired by President Truman, and not allow the CIA to assassinate foreign leaders and to change the political and economic structure of foreign countries. Because of our blatant hypocrisy and secret operations, we have earned the hatred of oppressed societies and peoples. When was the last time that we supportewd a democratic movement in some other country, and not the facistic-styled dictatorships the US had helped to establish into power?

Some of our military and our intelligence leaders have warned us many times already of what kind of dangerous future we might have. Our own 'false flag' operations have fooled some, but not all. Truth does manage to get heard, maybe not at first, but it does have much more staying power than propaganda does. The American people will eventually have to teach those who believe they are above the law and defy human ethics and morality, that in a democracy the people rule. They will not tolerate secret or open criminal activity against innocent persons anywhere.

Adele
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Adele Edisen Wrote:The "Global War on Terrorism" Mindset

The "war on terrorism" mindset builds a consensus: millions of Americans are led to believe that a militarized police apparatus is required to protect democracy. Little do they realize that the US government is the main source of terrorism both nationally and internationally.

The corporate media is Washington's propaganda arm, which consists in portraying Muslims as a threat to national security.

At this juncture in our history, at the crossroads of global economic and social crisis, the Boston bombings play a central role. They justify the Homeland Security State.

The evolving US Police State is thereby upheld as a means to protecting civil liberties. Under the guise of counter-terrorism, extrajudicial killings, the suspension of habeas corpus and torture are rightfully considered as a means to upholding the US Constitution.

At the same time, the terrorists created and supported by the CIA are used to participate in "False Flag" terrorist acts with a view to justifying the conduct of a global military crusade against Muslim countries, which so happen to be major oil producing economies.

"Massive Casualty Producing Events"

Former CENTCOM Commander, General Tommy Franks, who led the invasion of Iraq in 2003, had outlined a scenario of what he described as "a massive casualty producing event" on American soil, (a Second 9/11) . Implied in General Franks statement was the notion and belief that civilian deaths were necessary to raise awareness and muster public support for the "global war on terrorism".

"[A] terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event [will occur] somewhere in the Western world it may be in the United States of America that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event." (General Tommy Franks Interview, Cigar Aficionado, December 2003, emphasis added)

While the Boston bombings are of an entirely different nature to the "catastrophic event" alluded to by General Tommy Franks, the administration appears, nonetheless, to be committed to the logic of "militarizing our country" as a means to "protecting democracy."

The Boston events are already being used to galvanize public support for an extended domestic based counter-terrorism apparatus. The latter would be implemented alongside extrajudicial assassinations against so-called "homegrown self radicalized terrorists":

"U.S. counterterrorism policy has since 2001 focused largely on killing terrorists overseas or preventing them from getting into the U.S. But the Boston bombings show how the diffusion of terrorist tactics easily transcends borders. Countering small groups of individuals inside the U.S. can be a bedeviling assignment.

Bruce Riedel, director of the Intelligence Project at the Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan Washington think tank, said the Boston attack was likely a harbinger. "We are likely to see this as the future face of terrorist threats to the United States," he said, adding that the case of a small number of radicalized participants who have lived in the U.S. and execute a plot is "the counterterrorist community's worst nightmare, homegrown, self-radicalizing terrorism that learns its skill set off the Internet." (WSJ, April 20, op cit)

The "terrorist massive casualty-producing event" was upheld by General Franks as a crucial political turning point.

Do the Boston Bombings constitute a point of transition, a watershed which ultimately contributes to the gradual suspension of constitutional government?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How clever of our secret agencies to create Al Qaeda with the help of Osama bin Laden. He was CIA, you know, fighting the Russians in Afghanistan along with their Mujahideens (early Talibans) who trying to overturn the Afghan governmet which had been friendly towards Russia. The US supported the Mujahideens and bib Laden with guns and money, and Bzigniew Bzerzinski, Security Adviser to President Jimmy Carter, bragged of his work and influence in bringing about the downfall of the Soviet government, weakened by fighting an arduous war for ten years in Afghanistan (the Russians' "Vietnam war").

Thanks for that Adele. I had just read the article you linked in your previous post, as was just about to post that exact same extract as you have now done.

General Franks has let the cat out of the bag, I think.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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I can hear Orwell spinning in his grave as I write...
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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