11-09-2015, 12:30 PM
"One can always try to pick apart one part of someone's position. It can be done as correction or as a way to try to make the entire belief system they have look as if it has fallen on its face."
I'm in agreement with much/most of what you said but having speed-read that chapter, Shane does reach the conclusion that those 3 guys aren't who he thought they were. I suspect that as a result of this, someone like the BBC won't touch this story again as the report on Newsnight (which blew my mind at the time) has essentially backfired. That is a big shame because this case clearly warrants serious re-investigation. I found Shane's book to be mostly excellent.
I wonder why Van Praag/Joplings book didn't seem to get published or become widely available. They had a website for it but the book never seemed to surface.
That has no impact on the rest of what you said which i largely agree with.
As far as the hypnosis/brainwashing issue, I struggle to find an adequate explanation for Sirhan's notebook scrawls for example without that coming into play. Also Dan Brown's work with him appears to back that up.
All the same, I hope Tom can come up with a documentary, book, essay or similar. I'm extremely interested in what he has to say.
I wonder if Sirhan is aware of Polka Dot Dress girl's death. Pepper seemed to suggest a while back that they thought they knew who she was and was still alive. Again, it'd be interesting to know if Bill Pepper and Tom agree on her identity and i also wonder why, if Bill Pepper was certain, why he didn't blow this case apart.
In the recent appeals, Kamala Harris seemed to suggest that even though the defence may have proved the second gun, Sirhan was still guilty and should stay in jail.
I must add that i am surprised that more researchers haven't looked at this case as it appears to be the most obvious miscarriage of the political assassinations from the 60's and RFK's friend Paul Schrade has long voiced his concern.
Hardly anyone in the JFK research community seems interested. I've often thought that this case leads back to Dallas and that's why RFK could not be allowed to become president. Of course I could be wrong.
Tom is there anything else you feel able to offer ?
BTW. i'm a care worker, musician and music researcher...i'd be somewhat out of my depth working on something like this before someone suggests I do some real investigating for myself !
I'm in agreement with much/most of what you said but having speed-read that chapter, Shane does reach the conclusion that those 3 guys aren't who he thought they were. I suspect that as a result of this, someone like the BBC won't touch this story again as the report on Newsnight (which blew my mind at the time) has essentially backfired. That is a big shame because this case clearly warrants serious re-investigation. I found Shane's book to be mostly excellent.
I wonder why Van Praag/Joplings book didn't seem to get published or become widely available. They had a website for it but the book never seemed to surface.
That has no impact on the rest of what you said which i largely agree with.
As far as the hypnosis/brainwashing issue, I struggle to find an adequate explanation for Sirhan's notebook scrawls for example without that coming into play. Also Dan Brown's work with him appears to back that up.
All the same, I hope Tom can come up with a documentary, book, essay or similar. I'm extremely interested in what he has to say.
I wonder if Sirhan is aware of Polka Dot Dress girl's death. Pepper seemed to suggest a while back that they thought they knew who she was and was still alive. Again, it'd be interesting to know if Bill Pepper and Tom agree on her identity and i also wonder why, if Bill Pepper was certain, why he didn't blow this case apart.
In the recent appeals, Kamala Harris seemed to suggest that even though the defence may have proved the second gun, Sirhan was still guilty and should stay in jail.
I must add that i am surprised that more researchers haven't looked at this case as it appears to be the most obvious miscarriage of the political assassinations from the 60's and RFK's friend Paul Schrade has long voiced his concern.
Hardly anyone in the JFK research community seems interested. I've often thought that this case leads back to Dallas and that's why RFK could not be allowed to become president. Of course I could be wrong.
Tom is there anything else you feel able to offer ?
BTW. i'm a care worker, musician and music researcher...i'd be somewhat out of my depth working on something like this before someone suggests I do some real investigating for myself !