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Boise B Smith
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Brian Castle Wrote:..........

Westbrook is also the guy who parks at the back of the Texas Theater, and so when the white-shirted Oswald double is escorted out the back of the theater (as witnessed by Butch Burroughs from inside the theater, and Bernard Haire from outside of the theater), Westbrook is logically one of the officers who would have left the back way.

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This sure is an interesting case. Smile

You seem to be new at this, and you're going a mile a minute and I've seen your recent posts on Boise Smith on every forum I periodically read through. Nothing wrong with any of that.
I'll give you some advice you haven't asked for and probably will ignore. Slow down. File a lot of the clutter out of your analysis, at least for now. For exaample, you don't need to be thinking about
"stuff" like I highlighted from your last post. It is speculative and at least for now, it is distraction that will not get you anywhere. The most unsettled issues only bog people down, they distract, trigger
arguments and nothing is settled related to them. Whatever FBI agent Barrett disclosed decades later about what Westbrook said at the Tippit murder scene would have been better said nearer the time and
it carried little weight. Consider what has impact and what does not. Expand your horizons later and you already realize it is overwhelming in the way you presented just a little piece of it.

Example..... it is your choice whether to burrow down every rabbit hole that has so far resulted in nothing close to consensus because of a dearth of supporting evidence, even after 52 years.:

Quote:http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012_...chive.html
Wednesday, February 29, 2012
James Douglas & Wes Wise
............Buctch Burroughs and Bernard Haire are complimentary witnesses. From their perspectives both inside and outside the Texas Theater, they saw an Oswald double arrested and taken to a police car in the back alley only minutes after the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald. Burroughs' and Haire's independent, converging testimonies provide critical insight into the mechanics of the plot..........

[BK Notes: I don't believe, as JD apparently does, that the man who resembled Oswald and was taken into custody by the Dallas PD out the back of the Texas Theater is the same person who resembled Oswald and seen by T. H. White in a 57 Plymouth with Texas License plate PP 4537, as there apparently were more than two individuals who resembled Oswald in Oak Cliff at that time.]
Keep it simple, keep to the facts or few will take you seriously or pay attention to what you post. I don't know if you're aware that Empire Trust's Henry C. Brunie was best man in WC's John McCloy's
1930 wedding and was his neighbor for a time. In the early 1950's Brunie appointed Crichton a V.P. of Empire Trust. I got interested in this mess after I wondered who Obama's early billionaire backer, Lester Crown was. It was s short jump to Lester's father , Henry, to Henry's right hand man Patrick H. Hoy, go between with mob lawyer Sidney Korshak, and hired by Crown as a Exec. V.P. at General Dynamics after 15 years employment with Ernest Byflield Jr. and his father. Hoy rose to president of Byfield's Sherman Hotel group and had no experience in the areas Henry Crown hired Hoy to oversee.

My interest accelerated when I found that Byfield Jr's mother reluctantly leased her Glen Ora estate in Middleburg, VA to JFK and Jackie as the weekend White House in Hunt Country. Byfield Jr was a WWII OSS officer with army Captain military cover. His late uncle Hugh had played polo with OSS's Bill Donovan and Byfield, Jr. knew Donovan personally. In 1943, Byfield was best man in the wedding of William HG Fitzgerald and Anniles Petschek. They were married at St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC and the officiant was Father Vincent Donovan, Bill Donovan's brother.

One of the ushers in that wedding was Oliver W. Hammonds, a USAAF WWII intelligence officer who later moved to Dallas and wrote an authoritative book on the oil depletion allowance with his accountancy practice partner, George Day, a fellow Harvard graduate. The pair were members along with Stewart Dyckman, of the then tiny Dallas Harvard club and the three alternately served as club presidents. In 1939, Dyckman was living his post college batchelor decade in NYC as described in his obit. He worked at the Rockefeller bank and became close to a co-worker there, George Bouhe, and was one of two sponsors on Bouhe's naturalization application. Oliver W. Hammonds became a partner with Jack Crichton in Arab Shield Corp. and probably served as the Corp.'s accountant. FWIW, I can prove every point I posted, after the name Lester Crown.

Before paying any attention to the scant, unverifiable confusion of Oswald's in the balcony and out in back of the Texas Theater, know all you can about what is in the record. IOW, don't turn your potential readers off with so far and probably forever unverified/unverifiable claims.

Consider what a chore it was to read what I just posted, if you even bothered. There is little or no interest in new persons of interest because most are pretty well settled in their views and they know what they know. Your research on Boise Smith is still undeveloped and as you learn more, your enthusiasm may even increase, but in my experience, there will still be very little interest in whatever you unearth
about Boise's possible role in crime or cover up. It is best only to accuse individuals, especially newly mentioned and deceased ones of what you have strong evidence of them doing. Why speculate and turn off their survivng relative who you might otherwise wisn to solicit the cooperation of? BTW, Boise Smith's moither lived in Decatur, TX, remarried in the early 1940's to Herbert T. Gale. Smith's sister Elzena Elsie Smith Parker married Paul Costello of the Chicago Music School of Ed. in 1942 and died in Cape May, NJ in 1975. Paul Costello died there in 1969 and was born in Philadelphia. His father was Martin and his sister was Monica.

"Auntie" was the sister of Boise A. Smith : http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/d/u/p/Danie...-0001.html

Quote:Wise County Messenger from Decatur, Texas · Page 9

www.newspapers.com/newspage/56130340/

Mr. and Mrs. Herbert T. Gale were hosts Sunday to Major and Mrs. Boise B. smith who is Mrs. Gale's son, has recently returned from the iCuropeon War zone and will report in San Antonio this month... a cousin, of Dallas, also by Mr. and Mrs. Paul Costello of Chicago who flew ...
Quote:http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi...d=46867170
John Eli Gibson, age 71 of Forney, TX, passed away January 3, 2010. He was born August 30, 1938 in Brasher, TX,....
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[/URL].......Mr. BALL. Will you state your name, please?
Mr. GIBSON. John Gibson.
Mr. BALL. What is your occupation?
Mr. GIBSON. I am manager of a retail store.
Mr. BALL. What kind of retail store is that?
Mr. GIBSON. It's Elko Camera store.
Mr. BALL. What is the address of the Elko Camera Store?
Mr. GIBSON. 239 West Jefferson.
Mr. BALL. Near the Texas Theatre?
Mr. GIBSON. I'm four doors from the Texas Theatre.
Mr. BALL. Where were you born, Mr. Gibson?
Mr. GIBSON. I was born in Brashear, Tex.
Mr. BALL. Where did you go to school?
Mr. GIBSON. Woodrow Wilson High School.
Mr. BALL. Here in Dallas?
Mr. GIBSON. In Dallas.
Mr. BALL. Well, what have you done since you got out of school?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, after I got out of school I went in service in the Navy and stayed in there 2 years and came back and went to work for Snap-Shots, Inc., and then went to work for Hermetic Seal in Garland, and then went to work for Elko.
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Mr. BALL. Had you paid any attention to other people who had come in the theatre before the lights came on?
Mr. GIBSON. No.
Mr. BALL. Tell me what happened after the lights came on?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, when the lights came on, of course, as I said before, I know most of the people that work there in the show and I got up and started to the front to ask where the head usher or the girl was that works these lights--if something was wrong--I thought maybe they had a fire.
Mr. BALL. You say you started to the front, you mean you started into the lobby?
Mr. GIBSON. I started to the lobby, and just before I got to the door there were two or three--anyway the first police officer that got to me was carrying a shotgun, I remember that, and he says, "Is there anybody in the balcony?"
I said, "I don't know." He went on up into the balcony and I stood around out in the lobby for--I don't know--a minute or something, I guess, and they kept coming in and I stepped back inside the theatre just standing just behind where I had been sitting and I would say there were at least six or possibly more policemen downstairs. The rest of them were going upstairs.
Mr. BALL. What did you see happen?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, I was standing there watching all this going on and then the policeman started down the aisle--I would say there was another--I don't know, maybe six or eight--started down the aisles.
Mr. BALL. When you say "down the aisles," you mean all of the aisles?
Mr. GIBSON. Toward the screen--I don't know if they were going down all of them or not. I don't believe there was any--there was one policeman standing, it seems to me like, right on the other side of me, in the far aisle just behind me--I don't think there was anybody going down the far aisle next to the wall on my side.
Mr. BALL. What aisles did you see policemen going down?
Mr. GIBSON. I saw them going down what I would call the two big center
aisles, and then the next thing was--Oswald was standing in the aisle with a gun in his hand.
Mr. BALL. That's the next thing you saw?
Mr. GIBSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there anybody with him--near him?
Mr. GIBSON I couldn't swear to that--I don't know--you mean other policemen?
Mr. BALL. That's what I mean--was he in the aisles?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, he was in the aisle when I saw him.
Mr. BALL. What was he doing?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, he had this pistol in his hand.
Mr. BALL. Was anybody near him?
Mr. GIBSON. Just the officers.
Mr. BALL. What was the officer doing--did you say officers or police officer?
Mr. GIBSON. Officers.
Mr. BALL. Plural, officers?
Mr. GIBSON. Yes; there were more than one.
Mr. BALL. What were they doing?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, they were going toward him.
Mr. BALL. Did they have ahold of him at the time?
Mr. GIBSON. No; I don't believe so.
Mr. BALL. Did anyone have ahold of him at that time?
Mr. GIBSON. I don't think so.
Mr. BALL. Did you see any officer grab hold of Oswald?
Mr. GIBSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Which one can you describe where he was and what he did--just tell us in your own words what you saw him do?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, just like I guess you have heard this a lot of times--the gun misfired--it clicked and about the same time there was one police officer that positively had him.
Mr. BALL. What do you mean--"had him"?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, I mean he grabbed ahold of him.
Mr. BALL. Did he grab ahold of him before you heard the click or afterwards?
Mr. GIBSON. Gee, that's a question that's kind of hard to answer because I would say possibly seconds before or a second--maybe at the precise time the gun clicked. It happened pretty fast and like I say, I just went in to eat a hot-dog for lunch and I wasn't expecting any of this.
Mr. BALL. Did you see any officer strike Oswald?
Mr. GIBSON. No, sir; not directly; I saw them take him to the floor.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald strike any officer?
Mr. GIBSON. [Shaking head for negative answer.]
Mr. BALL. You did not?
Mr. GIBSON. Not that I saw.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear anybody say anything?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, I heard the officers, but I don't remember what they said--I couldn't tell you if my life depended on it.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear Oswald say anything?
Mr. GIBSON. No.
Mr. BALL. You mentioned the fact that they took him to the floor, you mean they actually went down in the floor of the theatre or close to it?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, from where I was standing and looking across--they took him to the floor.
Mr. BALL. Were there any seats in the way when they fell?
Mr. GIBSON. No; I was standing up--yes; there was seats in the way, but I was looking at an angle.
Mr. BALL. Did Oswald fall on the seats or on the floor?
Mr. GIBSON. They fell on the floor as best I could tell.
Mr. BALL. Then what did you see happen?
Mr. GIBSON. I didn't see anything happen--I walked back to the front.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald leave the theatre?
Mr. GIBSON. Yes; I saw the officers bring him out. .....


(Gibson may have joined the Navy instead of graduating from Woodrow Wilson HS)
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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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Boise B Smith - by Brian Castle - 11-10-2015, 07:27 AM
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