19-10-2015, 01:14 AM
Brian Castle Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:We will never be taken seriously unless we take ourselves seriously.
Hi Jim, nice to meet you. I agree with you completely on this point, and as a n00b, perhaps I can share my fresh experience in coming up to speed.
I've been doing "JFK research" for about a year now, and most of my work so far has been online. My problem has been, wading through all the disinformation that's posted in the cloud. For example, you mentioned the bit about Bush being in Dealey Plaza, and there's a perfect example.
As a n00b ("any" n00b), if I google on "Bush Dealey Plaza" the first hit I get is that picture. And then, I get one article after another that claims "Bush was in Dealey Plaza", and then on page two or three I finally start seeing some of the counter-claims saying it's a different guy.
The point being, that the fake story is above the real story, in the Google results. In other words, there's no organization of the information - there's no historical trail, nothing that will save me hours of research and tell me at a glance, "this claim has been debunked, and here's why", and then point me to the original evidence so I can see for myself.
Otherwise, what's a n00b to do? Look at the picture, and without any other knowledge you might be able to nod your head in agreement, "yep, that's Bush". And the result of that is, for the first year or two we have all these n00bs floating around saying "Bush was in Dealey plaza", and then those posts wind up in the Google search results under "Bush dealey plaza", and they end up pushing down the real stories even further!
There needs to be an authoritative site where everyone (n00bs included) can go to get an instant historical perspective on any given issue within the JFK assassination domain. Someone needs to be able to type in "Igor Vaganov" and get the whole story about how he was taken down to 10th and Patton and photographed there and so on... without having to do days of research to "maybe" get something approximating the real skinny.
This is work, right? We're talking about a whole heckuva lot of work. But, it's also a way of organizing the research community, and maybe saving a little bandwidth on some of the for-profit JFK sites.
What are the chances of building an information repository like that? And making it public and free of charge, so anyone and everyone can wade through the disinformation quickly and efficiently?
Brian,
According to some likeminded members of a site in "the Outback," they are what you are wishing for, a final arbiter. It doesn't work the way you are hoping it can. Have you accepted yet that there is a strong proclivity to either be in the "there is no tooth fairy or Easter Bunny" camp, vs. the "Oh, yes there is" camp? This pursuit is no different than persuading others that the Republican party is of no useful purpose, quite the opposite, in fact, or that "the Democrat party," is a leftist cabal bent on confiscating all wealth and expropriating all corporations. (Have you noticed that GW Bush began describing it as "Democrat party" and "Democrat leaders" and he and others in their party with their own always on point language have no influenced broadcast journalist to drop the "ic" from Democratic, even the name of the quadrennial nominating convention?)
Fact check everything everyone in this work posts or writes and you will get a sense of who is fact checking and who is repeating what they are impressed with.
Here is more to chew on, as far as this thread. Bill Decker's dept. knew how to pick 'em, and don't get me started on Jay Bert Peck's wife, Dorothy, 28 years his junior and still living with her parents in Preston Hollow in the late 1950's, but she marries Peck because he has looks to die for and lives in a 900 sq. feet ranch house in Garland, where she goes, despite her millionaire father and being his only surviving heir, and stays in Peck's house after he is murdered or suicided there and even after Liggett burns the house with her in it......
5430 Yolanda Ln, Dallas, TX 75229 Zestimate[SUP]®[/SUP]: $1,902,213
Zestimate[SUP]®[/SUP]: $97,5761202 Melrose Street, Garland, TX [URL="http://dfw.blockshopper.com/zips/75040"]75040
http://dfw.blockshopper.com/property/264...se_street/[/URL] Jay Bert, Dorothy Peck
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[TH]Name:[/TH]
[TD]Dorothy J. Peck[/TD]
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[TH]SSN:[/TH]
[TD]452-40-7342[/TD]
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[TH]Last Residence:[/TH]
[TD] 75040 Garland, Dallas, Texas, USA
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[TH]BORN:[/TH]
[TD]1 Jan 1930[/TD]
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[TH]Died:
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[TD]5 Mar 2002
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Quote:[PDF]Chief Justice Warren Burger
jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20Materials/.../69-07-08.pdf
We have al- ways felt the charges against Peck w e r e trumped up. He was accused of indecent exposure to minors. It was charged he approached a school bus ...
[PDF]here
jfk.hood.edu/Collection/.../M%20Disk/...up/Item%2020.pdf
Jul 1, 1984 - Deputy resigns before indecency charge filed ... Roger Craig Jr. 30. of the 8800 block of Files ..... assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.