08-03-2016, 05:39 AM
Kara Dellacioppa Wrote:Have you guys taken a look at Levenda's new book The Hitler Legacy? Im only a couple of chapters into it and Ive learned so much about Levenda's life and intelligence connections which before I felt like i had to piece together from various blogs and obscure podcasts trying to figure him out.
Anyway the occult obviously figures heavily in the book...
on another note. Ive never seen Jay Dyer mentioned here before and I just started reading and listening to him a few months ago...
Dyer and Levenda seem to both have murky agendas coming from different places. Sometimes I feel like the whole "deep politics" thing has been come its own upstart industry, especially with the internet, i suppose it always was.. however sometimes when these researchers sounds interesting with good material but beneath the surface, i feel like Im just being sold another ideology or religion.. Ed Opperman is a great interviewer but a total evangelical christian. Levenda is into the occult, lately I feel like Dyer who seems to admire Joseph P Farrell has his heart in the Eastern Orthodox Church, James Corbett is an anti state libertarian. I dont think anything is bad about believing in any of these things, its just when you can tell it skews the research...
btw, Joseph Farrell one time taught at this extremely right wing fundamentalist christian school here where I live in orange county (and to call a school "extreme fundamentalist christian" is saying something because there is a lot of competition here..
anyway I guess i should have started my own thread
meh, Im feeling cynical today..
Hi Kara, I've read Levenda's Hitler Legacy.......and his earlier books too. It was certainly obvious that he had an interest in the Occult. I guess we all have our biases and see the World through the filter of them and our own individual lives and beliefs. Personally, I think if one can just see what the person's belief system is and take that into account, many who one might not agree with 100% still have valid research to offer in part or on the whole, depending. The thing about the 'research community', if there really is such a thing, that has long bothered me is not their biases and slant, but the infighting and/or lack of willingness to work with many others, for the most part. Each usually have a very small group they work with and won't help out others. Not all follow that 'rule', but it seems to be the general case. Yes, Corbett is an anti-government libertarian who denies anthropogenic climate change, and I think that clouds some of his research a little, but leaves a lot of the rest of it unscathed and useful [to me]. It is simply helpful to know where 'someone is coming from', and sometimes it takes a bit of work to find out.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass