I call this topic "Standing my Ground"

[Tom Scully]

Tom, You may post your 10 mile long post, and [try] to save face too, what's left of it, you're slowly discrediting yourself the more you post, but, by all means post away. I know it's hard for you to understand, and I don't blame you, big words may be difficult to pronounce. That's okay Tom, still, you'll post away. I don't expect you to understand those letters you posted are forgery. Have a good day Tom.

Oh, and if you decide to follow up with a post after this one, I will completely discredit you, it's your choice Tom.

~Scott Kaiser

P.S. Tracy, the Newman statement was for Jim.

I do apologize, I said there are letters of Galbraith reporting to the president of the urgency to reconsider Vietnam, I sincerely believed there was, however, I cannot find one, does that also discredit me? I don't know, however, I did, though all the hoopla and posts by many top notch researchers come to believe as they did that Galbraith did write a letter regarding Vietnam, sadly, there is none.

~Scott Kaiser

"Training wheels" version, chronological order -

Scott, I am bothering to present the evidence (again, see page 1, bottom, of this thread) that should influence you (if you were a reasonable person) to hide your head in shame and apologize, then fall silent, and contemplate your methods!

The following are arranged in chronological order, from November 3, 1961.:

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocu...63v01/d209
Foreign Relations of the United States, 19611963
Volume I, Vietnam, 1961, Document 209

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209. Paper Prepared by the Ambassador to India (Galbraith)[SUP]1[/SUP]

Washington, November 3, 1961.
A PLAN FOR SOUTH VIETNAM
The situation in South Viet-Nam is perilously close to the point of no return.....
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[SUP]1[/SUP] Source: Kennedy Library, President's Office File, Viet-Nam Country Series, Security 1961. Secret. The source text was attached to a signed letter of November 3 from Galbraith to the President, which reads in full: "You asked for my views on Vietnam. They are set forth in this paper. I might add that they are shared by Abe Chayes, who has collaborated with me in preparing the paper." Galbraith was in Washington for the State visit of Prime Minister Nehru

https://www.archives.gov/research/pentagon-papers/
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On the 40th anniversary of the leak to the press, the National Archives, along with the Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon Presidential Libraries, has released the complete report. There are 48 boxes and approximately 7,000 declassified pages. Approximately 34% of the report is available for the first time.....
https://nara-media-001.s3.amazonaws.com/...IV-B-1.pdf :




"This" could have ended here,

Tom, I'm not disputing the fact he sent letters, is there a serious problem with just me that people don't understand my English? Or, am I not saying what I need to say correctly? Galbraith DID write letters, I'm not disputing that. I never said he didn't write a letter.

If I need to translate in Spanish please let me know, Galbraith DID NOT GO TO VIETNAM FOR KENNEDY AND REPORT BACK TO KENNEDY SENATOR MANSFIELD DID THAT. Do you understand me now?

I am a man, and when I right, I'm right. You're trying to prove Kennedy asked Galbraith to go to Vietnam but you'll never prove it Tom. If I were wrong, I would have admitted it, can you? Be a man Tom!

Vietnam Voices: Perspectives on the War Years, 1941-1975 - Pa

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0820333697

John Clark Pratt - 2008 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Perspectives on the War Years, 1941-1975 John Clark Pratt ... In November President Kennedy receives this hurried message from the ambassador to India, John Kenneth Galbraith, who has ... I HAVE JUST COMPLETED THREE INTENSIVE DAYS IN SAIGON WHICH, WITH CINCPAC [COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, PACIFIC] ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=3VGIfL...on&f=false

Compare the text to that in the quote box immediately above.:
https://nara-media-001.s3.amazonaws.com/...IV-B-1.pdf
([B].pdf page 177 of 195).[/B]:

I give up! You win!

Considering this:

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https://books.google.com/books?id=3VGIfL...on&f=false

Scott continued, after appearing to concede. This is the post that convinced me he has taken leave of his senses. What could have possibly justified the following?:

Here we go again! When I ask for a reference next time please don't give me books, I prefer minute meetings or FOIA documents that can explain everything a little more clearer.

Several books contradict themselves about Galbraith in the Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War that Tom Scully also posted talks about Galbraith and how he opposed the war in Vietnam, however, in his son's book, he says his father and McNamara agreed with how the war was going and McNamara wanted to see it escalate.

In this book, it talks about how Galbraith wrote Kennedy a letter posing his views, however, it also goes on to say that "Galbraith" who was ALREADY in Washington was to fly back to India via Saigon, now does that really make any sense if Galbraith was to fly back to Washington, (your words not mine) and report to Kennedy?

Can you see? If you were to read every book Tom put up they EACH contradict themselves, and I'm not sure Tom even realized that. I believe he was in just too much of a hurry to prove me wrong, which I don't blame him. I'm sure there were multiple researchers looking for the answers, but when it comes down to it, by the time it was all said and done. The bottom line is this, it was Mansfield's report that ultimately had Kennedy realize the seriousness in Vietnam which made him consider the withdraw.

It was because of Galbraith and his later speaking up against the war sending "letters" to Kennedy that had Kennedy send Mansfield to Vietnam.

The End!

https://books.google... saigon&f=false

Here we go again! When I ask for a reference next time please don't give me books, I prefer minute meetings or FOIA documents that can explain everything a little more clearer. ....

Judging by these two posts of Scott's of earlier today, his statement directly above is also disproven. :

I see no evidence or arguments to back up your claim that the letters were forged, or even a reason why they would be, only your assertions.

I have taken the liberty to "compile" all of Galbraith's letters to the president, as I've said, he did indeed write letters, but he did not go to Vietnam, I shall never argue with anyone again who is not willing to except knowledge. Ever!

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/A...a-012.aspx

~Scott Kaiser

"IT IS FINISHED!"

The [reason] you will NOT find any letter to the president regarding Vietnam is because Kennedy sent Galbraith to India as the Ambassador to India in 1961. Now, any decisive measures regarding the events surrounding Vietnam the [president] should make is for the president and only the president to take.

As MY second [cousin] Congressman Donald J. Irwin would say. I hope I'm getting through to you people!

Scott, consider that to everyone who reads this post, or my last post at the bottom of the first page of this thread, it will be obvious except to you, that you are no longer arguing incoherently with me, but against primary sources, the very level of sources you so recently demanded to see, but as happens so often , had no ability to locate and present.:

Here we go again! When I ask for a reference next time please don't give me books, I prefer minute meetings or FOIA documents that can explain everything a little more clearer. ....