14-03-2016, 09:34 PM
Lauren, I listened to an interview today posted on Dyer's facebook. It was with Alexander Dubin, Russian intellectual and former Putin adviser. It was extremely interesting, it was mostly focused on liberalism and "end of the West". I looked more into this guy and his links, and it turns out he considers himself a Traditionalist philosopher. I found a lot of what he said compelling. Dyer is affiliated with the Eastern Orthodox Church, I started going through links to make connections among the people that Dyer cites in his work and focuses on. Pretty soon it was at the National Policy Institute an American white supremacist think thank, Dyer cites people like Spengler and Julius Evola, from what I gather they see themselves as non racist fascists. I started to feel creeped out. Today I read an interview with him where Dyer states that he isn't a fascist, yet all over the place he quotes these thinkers who were fundamental to fascist movements in Europe and America, including Francis Yockey. He even talks about reading Gary North, the Christan Identity guru. As Peter and David point out, researchers need to account for biases but often there are hidden agendas. And Lauren is right, how does this guy pay his rent? Does he really make so much money that he can produce endless high quality shows? The Koch brothers have been funding right movements for a very long time since the John Birch Society and probably even before then. Social media is ground zero for them to spread all kinds of disinfo through supposedly "independent" researchers. They funded the Ron Paul phenomena and modern libertarianism. We have "Young Americans for Liberty" on our campus, A few white kids have ALL this money to promote Ayn Rand meets Phyllis Schafly literature to contaminate our campus. I know that I might seem like Im condemning Dyer on the basis of what he reads but his choice of literature is interesting and doesn't pass the smell test. Oh and the Alexander Dubin guy endorses Trump for president. I don't know what the answer is. Liberalism is a failed ideology, I agree with that, I actually agreed with much of Dubin's critique of America. What the solution is, I just don't know. But I know its not fascism.
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Kara Dellacioppa Wrote:Have you guys taken a look at Levenda's new book The Hitler Legacy? Im only a couple of chapters into it and Ive learned so much about Levenda's life and intelligence connections which before I felt like i had to piece together from various blogs and obscure podcasts trying to figure him out.
Anyway the occult obviously figures heavily in the book...
on another note. Ive never seen Jay Dyer mentioned here before and I just started reading and listening to him a few months ago...
Dyer and Levenda seem to both have murky agendas coming from different places. Sometimes I feel like the whole "deep politics" thing has been come its own upstart industry, especially with the internet, i suppose it always was.. however sometimes when these researchers sounds interesting with good material but beneath the surface, i feel like Im just being sold another ideology or religion.. Ed Opperman is a great interviewer but a total evangelical christian. Levenda is into the occult, lately I feel like Dyer who seems to admire Joseph P Farrell has his heart in the Eastern Orthodox Church, James Corbett is an anti state libertarian. I dont think anything is bad about believing in any of these things, its just when you can tell it skews the research...
btw, Joseph Farrell one time taught at this extremely right wing fundamentalist christian school here where I live in orange county (and to call a school "extreme fundamentalist christian" is saying something because there is a lot of competition here..
anyway I guess i should have started my own thread
meh, Im feeling cynical today..
Dyer just cranks it out. I have been thinking that there are more than one of him or he has a staff of researchers and writers. Where does the money come from that? He has started to take subscriptions, but still ...