16-10-2016, 09:22 AM
John Knoble Wrote:Quote:However, Putin how openly stated that Russia hasn't and wouldn't interfere in the US democratic process (not that it's democratic mind you).
Russia is professionally managed by a former intelligence agent, and we would be at a serious disadvantage if our policies were truly subject to random drift every four years based on who can put on the best show in what amounts to a dressed-up seventh grade student council election. The system has obviously been tweaked to protect our national interests from that. The mythologists are part of it. The latest generation of them has a tendency to be trite, which has exhausted credibility they'll need when the economic issues caused by too much debt become an crisis again. It seems they don't like Trump, but who knows, reverse psychology isn't a very sophisticated tactic.
Putin is well situated to point out flaws in the Western mythology, but that doesn't mean he has our interests at heart, no more than we had the interests of ordinary Russians at heart when Pravda was dissembling to prop up their failing mythology before the Soviet economy collapsed.
Countless people are in position to point out the obvious flaws in the corrupt and dishonest Western political and financial system. I (and many others) do it all the time - without the slightest need for any help or guidance from Vlad.
Quote:It wouldn't surprise me at all if Russia has been covertly involved in digging us a deeper hole in the debt crisis, with agents of influence on Wall Street, three letter agencies and Capitol Hill. Maybe even to a greater extent in the UK and continental Europe.
Why would he need or bother to do that? Our western banking elite is so laden with greed and corruption they can - and do - sow disaster all on their own. One only need to search this forum for years past to see overwhelming evidence in support of this.
Quote:I hope we have our priorities in order to investigate such things. It is troubling to read reports of law enforcement being held back because of clubbiness between politicians or donors who have deep pockets.
Investigate such things... Wouldn't that be nice fort a change. ::thumbsup::
The investigation of the DNC hack has recorded zero evidence to support the conspiracy theory that Putin was behind it. I carefully read Clapper's statement on it recently and the best he could come up with was that it (the Russia "done it" propaganda) was consistent with methods used by Russia in the past.
The media has been running story after story stating that it's the Russians, the Russians - and bolstering said reports drawn solely from prior news reports that since the Russian hackers have done naughty things in the past - then they're clearly guilty. That's the extent of US investigative priorities to date.
The reality is that you can't investigate something diligently if you already know who was responsible but can't state your findings publicly, for fear of losing your job when Hilary becomes the White House Dominatrix-in-chief.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14