18-10-2016, 12:45 AM
Phil Dagosto Wrote:Quote:I apologize then Phil, it seems as though I miss understood the title of this topic, JFK Assassination - The Names Who Planned It, and you said, They were not so much an agent for the President as they were for the wealthy, powerful interests outside of government that actually provided funding for some of their operations (e.g., William Pawley, the Luces and others). Time-Life getting control of the Z-film is a strong tell.
My apologies for connecting the two.
Scott,
I didn't start the thread or name it. I used the names of Pawley, the Luces as exemplars of the wealthy, powerful individuals who were adamantly opposed to Kennedy's approach to Cuba and who were active in the anti-Castro movement. Pawley organized operation TILT (TILT being an official CIA crypt) which was designed to smuggle out from Cuba supposed Russian officers who wanted to defect and reveal information about nuclear warheads and missiles that were still in Cuba (Hancock, Someone Would Have Talked, pp 7-11). The crazy SOB actually went on the mission itself (the boat trip, not the actual infiltration) which failed to produce the promised results which would have, if realized, caused tremendous political embarrassment to the Kennedy administration. LIFE magazine (owned by the Luces) "provided funds and media support" to TILT (Hancock, pp 335) and also sponsored Alpha 66 raids against Cuba (Hancock, pp 172-173). Both Pawley and Claire Booth Luce were members of the Citizen's Committee to Free Cuba (Hancock, pp 172). Also according to Hancock, Pawley was on a first-name basis with Dulles and enjoyed "extensive contacts" with senior CIA officials including Helms which gave him license to go directly to Ted Shackley at JMWAVE to pitch his operation.
Want more? Pawley committed suicide one week after being placed on the HSCA witness list by Gaeton Fonzi (Hancock, pp 338).
So while I did not specifically say that either Pawley or the Luces were directly involved in financing or instigating the Kennedy assassination its not unreasonable to consider them suspects.
Allen Dulles was always a faithful servant to the wealthy, powerful individuals who exercised influence over US foreign policy and the US intelligence community. No, I don't think they micro-managed every single thing Dulles did but in his long service he clearly learned what their interests were and was capable of doing what they would approve of without being asked. However, it beggars the imagination (well, mine anyway) that a venture as risky and dangerous as murdering the President of the United States would be undertaken by even Allen Dulles, who by that time held no official position in government, without approval from the power elites whom he had served.
Finally, I do consider Time-LIFE getting exclusive control over the Zapruder film as a strong tell as to the influence of the power elites in the assassination. Knowing who owned Time-LIFE and their involvement in the anti-Castro movement its really not a stretch to imagine that they could have been party to at least the cover up (you remember those out of sequence frames that seemed to show the head shot pushing JFK forward don't you?).
Yes, I have no way to "prove" any of this but the last time I checked this forum was not a court room. I'm merely expressing my opinion based on the information I have come across over the years. You're free to disagree but I would appreciate it if you would not misrepresent what I write particularly when there's actual evidence to support the allegations you imagine I made (but actually didn't).
Well Phil, I was merely asking the question as to where you believed William Pawley may have contributed to the financing of Kennedy's assassination. The purpose I ask this question is because I do have (proof) that Pawley did in fact contribute.