01-02-2017, 04:23 PM
QUOTE:
"As usual Tracy, you misrepresent my intention, and I wonder why that is…"
Oh, because I work for the deep state, David! Darn, you caught me!
QUOTE:
"Hitherto Trump, you have had no axe to grind in this respect. Trump winning and Hillary losing seems to have changed everything."
Then you really haven't been paying attention, David, because on this forum I have criticized Hersh and others on the Left for their positions on JFK, 9/11 and other subjects that you no longer seem to think are very important. If people aren't able or willing to honestly and critically examine those events, then you have to wonder how credible they are about other subjects.
For many on the left, the "blowback" position on 9/11 has been, for 15 years now, a very safe and politically convenient position to adopt, and it allows them to quit thinking about it anymore. For others, the "lone nut" solution on JFK lets them happily play in the ideological sandbox of "JFK was just a Cold Warrior playboy and wasn't going to withdraw from Vietnam." Again, an excuse to not think critically.
QUOTE:
"But who needs evidence when the deep state says something is so (and that something is wholly based on a political and economic agenda as obvious as a full moon) and yet uncritical minds accept their distortions at face value."
Again, there are many pieces of circumstantial evidence that I've already discussed, and no one here has explained or refuted. For example, if Seth Rich was a source for the "leak," why can't Assange just reveal that? The man is, after all, dead and no longer threatened by the deep state. I don't claim to know the full story of what happened during last year's election, but you have to be pretty blind not to see all of the pro-Russian people around Trump, their ties to Russian oligarchs and state elements. You also have to be very naive to think Putin wouldn't take advantage of a situation like that, or to gather private dirt about prominent politicians in Western countries.
Cyber warfare and interference in elections are dirt-cheap weapons for a country that still struggles financially and militarily.
"As usual Tracy, you misrepresent my intention, and I wonder why that is…"
Oh, because I work for the deep state, David! Darn, you caught me!
QUOTE:
"Hitherto Trump, you have had no axe to grind in this respect. Trump winning and Hillary losing seems to have changed everything."
Then you really haven't been paying attention, David, because on this forum I have criticized Hersh and others on the Left for their positions on JFK, 9/11 and other subjects that you no longer seem to think are very important. If people aren't able or willing to honestly and critically examine those events, then you have to wonder how credible they are about other subjects.
For many on the left, the "blowback" position on 9/11 has been, for 15 years now, a very safe and politically convenient position to adopt, and it allows them to quit thinking about it anymore. For others, the "lone nut" solution on JFK lets them happily play in the ideological sandbox of "JFK was just a Cold Warrior playboy and wasn't going to withdraw from Vietnam." Again, an excuse to not think critically.
QUOTE:
"But who needs evidence when the deep state says something is so (and that something is wholly based on a political and economic agenda as obvious as a full moon) and yet uncritical minds accept their distortions at face value."
Again, there are many pieces of circumstantial evidence that I've already discussed, and no one here has explained or refuted. For example, if Seth Rich was a source for the "leak," why can't Assange just reveal that? The man is, after all, dead and no longer threatened by the deep state. I don't claim to know the full story of what happened during last year's election, but you have to be pretty blind not to see all of the pro-Russian people around Trump, their ties to Russian oligarchs and state elements. You also have to be very naive to think Putin wouldn't take advantage of a situation like that, or to gather private dirt about prominent politicians in Western countries.
Cyber warfare and interference in elections are dirt-cheap weapons for a country that still struggles financially and militarily.