Where the heck is Albert Doyle?

[LR Trotter]

This is one of the problems i have with this field. For many people, this is not a research endeavor. Its a quasi religious Crusade, comparable to the misguided Children's Crusade of the middle ages.

Doyle PM'd me on this subject a couple of days ago. He also tried to dump a guilt trip on me, that somehow I was in some way responsible for his being placed on moderation.

No sale to him. No sale to you.

Bart's article was a good piece of mostly new research about the lunchroom encounter. An event that had become something of a shibboleth with JFK books and research. I began to question this event when I discovered Baker's first day affidavit. It was mentioned at length by Weisberg in Whitewash 2, and so I found it online at the Dallas Archives. I wrote four pages about it in Reclaiming Parkland. (See pages 216-220) I stand by what I wrote.

But Bart brought in many new sources of information about the event. That article has one of the highest ratings ever recorded at Kennedysandking.com. Something like 19 five stars. Which is the opposite of an appeal to authority. Its approval from the public. There is not anything in that article as edited that refers to PM. And for you to say that somehow if you like the article its like the WC saying "well, if Oswald killed JFK he killed Tippit", because you have to buy PM also ,that is such a loopy stretch that it shows how obsessed you and Doyle have become with Sean Murphy's ideas.

I have not posted on the lunch room encounter thread here in ages. And I don't ever plan on doing so. I have not posted on the PM matter over at EF in ages. And I don't plan on doing so. And I have stated why. Because the arguments have become so polarized and so angry that I don't see any point in taking part. It would be like arguing whether the Zapruder film has been altered with Lifton and Groden. What would be the point? None that I can see.

I am somewhat confused by, at least part of, this post. Plainly stated, the statement, "There is not anything in that article as edited that refers to PM", if as indicated, a reference to the BartKamp article, ANATOMY OF THE SECOND FLOOR LUNCH ROOM ENCOUNTER, said statement appears to me to be incorrect.

Previously, in the DPF Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter thread, there was an ongoing discussion, and Albert Doyle posted some information found in the article, regarding a picture/still of the TSBD doorway, and the picture had the numbers 1,2 & 3, above the heads of three images, and a reference was made to number 1 as being PM/LHO. And, after reading the posts, as well as the recent post by RichardGilbride, I looked for myself, and found said picture on page 29 of the article, with the notation referencing PM/LHO on page 28.

​So, to me it appears as though the article does include a reference to the PM theory, indicating LHO as PM, at least as edited when I read/viewed said reference, which causes me to conclude, as concluded also by Mr Gilbride, that Mr Doyle was correct about said reference. And, I believe confirmation can be found on the Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter thread page 5, post #44, that appears to be part a series of posts in a discussion.

As I acknowledge that the Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter thread was created to support dispute of the encounter occurrence, although, and especially since, I do not agree with said dispute, I do seek accurate understanding of statements as expressed, that pertain to the events of 11/22/'63 in and/or near the TSBD Building/DealeyPlaza, in Dallas, TX.

Mostly though, I am hopeful that said discussion did not enhance any reasoning for the administrative moderation placed on Mr Doyle's posting on DPF.