09-02-2018, 10:23 PM
The ongoing reference to those who disagree with Mr. G as "HOAXSTERS" has to stop....
The opposite of your POV Richard is not a HOAX... what you are trying to foster on unsuspecting readers is a version of junk science that disregards the realities of light and how images are digitized.
You are calling me a hoaxster... and my argument that the evidence supports the conclusion the 2nd floor encounter never happened... a hoax...
It seems to me now that we've asked you to calm down - you may be so married to your work's conclusion you've stopped considering other thoughts.... or the actual evidence...
Have you any real sense of how many witnesses' statements were written for them, or explained to them, or altered after the waiving of a review and signing...??
A good example is BLEDSOE describing the shirt Oswald changed into BEFORE he goes to the theater and after he takes this supposed bus ride... she was given the shirt's description and used it despite it not being the shirt he was wearing at the time... ooops. Add to that McWatters admitting it was not Oswald and we see BLEDSOE for the lead witness she was...
So please don't pretend I don't have a significant enough understanding of the material to have any kind of discussion you'd like... nothing I present here is a HOAX Richard... and for someone who has spent so much time around this case, you not seeing the HOAX perpetrated by the DPD, FBI, CIA, SS, I&NS and a handful of other acronyms... yet just not here in this one case.... is beyond understanding.
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Another Case in point Jim brought up
Here's a hoax for you... Norman claiming to hear shells and the working of the bolt...
Norman was about 10 feet from the muzzle of that rifle if it had been fired from the 6th floor window. A muzzle blast produces 125-150 decibels ...
Do you have any idea what 125dB at 10 feet would do to your ears? How long they would be ringing with an inability to hear anything... and yet this happens 2 more times and after each time Norman not only can claim to hear these clinks and clanks but make the comment that MAYBE the shots are coming from just above...
Richard, it doesn't pass the smell test... All three of these men would have had a terrible time hearing anything if a rifle went off 3 times within 15 feet of their ears... remember, the muzzle was supposedly outside the window...
These men where right at the windows directly beneath - or were they? This is Hughes and Weaver as the limo turns the corner... where are our 3 men? All in the window to the east?
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Maybe it was just another case of the authorities filling in the blanks...
Mr. NORMAN. I believe it was his right arm, and I can't remember what the exact time was but I know I heard a shot, and then after I heard the shot, well, it seems as though the President, you know, slumped or something, and then another shot and I believe Jarman or someone told me, he said, "I believe someone is shooting at the President," and I think I made a statement "It is someone shooting at the President, and I believe it came from up above us." [/FONT]Well, I couldn't see at all during the time but I know I heard a third shot fired, and I could also hear something sounded like the shell hulls hitting the floor and the ejecting of the rifle, it sounded as though it was to me.
[/FONT]Mr. BALL. I want to call your attention to one part of the statement and I will ask you if you told him that: [/FONT]
"Just after the President passed by, I heard a shot and several seconds later I heard two more shots. I knew that the shots had come from directly above me, and I could hear the expended cartridges fall to the floor. I could also hear the bolt action of the rifle. I also saw some dust fall from the ceiling of the fifth floor and I felt sure that whoever had fired the shots was directly above me." [/FONT]
Did you make that statement to the Secret Service man? [/FONT]
Mr. NORMAN. I don't remember making a statement that I knew the shots came from directly above us.[/FONT] I didn't make that statement. And I don't remember saying I heard several seconds later. I merely told him that I heard three shots because I didn't have any idea what time it was. [/FONT]
The opposite of your POV Richard is not a HOAX... what you are trying to foster on unsuspecting readers is a version of junk science that disregards the realities of light and how images are digitized.
You are calling me a hoaxster... and my argument that the evidence supports the conclusion the 2nd floor encounter never happened... a hoax...
It seems to me now that we've asked you to calm down - you may be so married to your work's conclusion you've stopped considering other thoughts.... or the actual evidence...
Have you any real sense of how many witnesses' statements were written for them, or explained to them, or altered after the waiving of a review and signing...??
A good example is BLEDSOE describing the shirt Oswald changed into BEFORE he goes to the theater and after he takes this supposed bus ride... she was given the shirt's description and used it despite it not being the shirt he was wearing at the time... ooops. Add to that McWatters admitting it was not Oswald and we see BLEDSOE for the lead witness she was...
So please don't pretend I don't have a significant enough understanding of the material to have any kind of discussion you'd like... nothing I present here is a HOAX Richard... and for someone who has spent so much time around this case, you not seeing the HOAX perpetrated by the DPD, FBI, CIA, SS, I&NS and a handful of other acronyms... yet just not here in this one case.... is beyond understanding.
Another Case in point Jim brought up
Here's a hoax for you... Norman claiming to hear shells and the working of the bolt...
Norman was about 10 feet from the muzzle of that rifle if it had been fired from the 6th floor window. A muzzle blast produces 125-150 decibels ...
Do you have any idea what 125dB at 10 feet would do to your ears? How long they would be ringing with an inability to hear anything... and yet this happens 2 more times and after each time Norman not only can claim to hear these clinks and clanks but make the comment that MAYBE the shots are coming from just above...
Richard, it doesn't pass the smell test... All three of these men would have had a terrible time hearing anything if a rifle went off 3 times within 15 feet of their ears... remember, the muzzle was supposedly outside the window...
These men where right at the windows directly beneath - or were they? This is Hughes and Weaver as the limo turns the corner... where are our 3 men? All in the window to the east?
Maybe it was just another case of the authorities filling in the blanks...
Mr. NORMAN. I believe it was his right arm, and I can't remember what the exact time was but I know I heard a shot, and then after I heard the shot, well, it seems as though the President, you know, slumped or something, and then another shot and I believe Jarman or someone told me, he said, "I believe someone is shooting at the President," and I think I made a statement "It is someone shooting at the President, and I believe it came from up above us." [/FONT]Well, I couldn't see at all during the time but I know I heard a third shot fired, and I could also hear something sounded like the shell hulls hitting the floor and the ejecting of the rifle, it sounded as though it was to me.
[/FONT]Mr. BALL. I want to call your attention to one part of the statement and I will ask you if you told him that: [/FONT]
"Just after the President passed by, I heard a shot and several seconds later I heard two more shots. I knew that the shots had come from directly above me, and I could hear the expended cartridges fall to the floor. I could also hear the bolt action of the rifle. I also saw some dust fall from the ceiling of the fifth floor and I felt sure that whoever had fired the shots was directly above me." [/FONT]
Did you make that statement to the Secret Service man? [/FONT]
Mr. NORMAN. I don't remember making a statement that I knew the shots came from directly above us.[/FONT] I didn't make that statement. And I don't remember saying I heard several seconds later. I merely told him that I heard three shots because I didn't have any idea what time it was. [/FONT]
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter