11-02-2018, 02:04 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2018, 03:43 AM by LR Trotter.)
RichardGillbride said: "I don't care if I am the most unpopular guy at this party".
Maybe so, at this party, but across the forum, maybe top five. I don't consider myself among the top ten, but likely out there somewhere.
Worth consideration, is the fact that the fatal shooting of USP JohnKennedySr, critical wounding of TG JohnConnallyJr, fatal shooting of DPD Officer JD Tippit, not far from DealyPlaza, and the fatal shooting of shooting suspect, TSBD Employee LeeOswald, two days later, while in police custody at DPD Headquarters, were actual real life events, not a made for TV Movie, nor a Crime Drama episode, where a police officer gets involved in a shooting incident, and reacts by attempting to apprehend an unknown gunman or unknown gunmen inside or on top of a multi story building. And, in a crime drama episode, the officer, although quite excited, enters a ground level first floor, and sees quite visible floor number signs while conducting a search. Although he encounters a building employee that later becomes a shooter suspect on an upper floor, that person was not yet a suspect, but was confirmed to be an employee at work. And, in the crime drama episode, the officer noticed a floor number sign just as the encounter occurs. But, after a quick search, no confirmed or indicated shooter was found, and the music starts just before a commercial break.
After a commercial break, the officer is back at headquarters, all of the exited condition is gone, blood pressure is normal. And, as he is recounting his reaction to the shooting incident, second by second exactly as it occurred, low and behold, the not yet a suspect building employee he had encountered, is now a suspect, primarily for a separate shooting incident, is at headquarters under arrest. Immediately, in the crime drama episode, the officer recognizes the now shooting suspect building employee, beyond doubt, and concludes, also immediately, that it is very likely that the shooting suspect he had encountered, had also fired the shots from the building. Now the music starts, and then a commercial break begins.
However, movies and crime drama episodes are not actual, and as they occurred, real life events. DPD SoloMotorcycleOfficer ML Baker, while escorting the PresidentKennedy Motorcade, reacted with expected excitement and without confirmed law enforcement officer backup, followed his instincts regarding the origin of the shots, parked his motorcycle, entered the closest to him entrance to the TSBD Building, which he was not familiar with, and he had to take steps up to the mid-level landing first floor entrance. Did he know he was entering the first floor, and not the second floor? Although as he entered the TSBD, he was then accompanied by BuildingSuperintendent RS Truly as an escort for direction, he was still without known law enforcement officer backup. So, unfamiliar with the TSBD, after going up steps to enter the mid-level first floor, and dealing with expected human excitement/apprehension, OfficerBaker's initial statement about an encounter on the "third or fourth floor", has to be within the realm of human memory expectation, especially considering the situation in DealyPlaza at 12:30pm CST on November 22, 1963, and the enormous possibilities of physical injury done by a shooter there, at that time. After thorough review, and much better understanding of the TSBD Building layout and flooring construction, and action/reaction reenactment, he was able to confirm the encounter as it occurred at the lunchroom on the second floor.
Real life occurrences are real, as they occur, with real people. They are not TV Crime Dramas, are not with actors for characters, are not with commercial breaks, and especially are not filmed scenes that can be discarded and re-filmed for audience entertainment. And quite disturbing, is that there are those that were not there, were not eyewitnesses, some possibly not yet born before 11/22/'63, yet can be so critical of known eyewitnesses, including OfficerBaker and his actions/reactions. Especially disturbing, is that there are some that declare that now deceased known eyewitnesses are "liars", simply because said eyewitnesses' accounts do not match their own "decided" account of the assassination and/or accompanying events.
Maybe so, at this party, but across the forum, maybe top five. I don't consider myself among the top ten, but likely out there somewhere.
Worth consideration, is the fact that the fatal shooting of USP JohnKennedySr, critical wounding of TG JohnConnallyJr, fatal shooting of DPD Officer JD Tippit, not far from DealyPlaza, and the fatal shooting of shooting suspect, TSBD Employee LeeOswald, two days later, while in police custody at DPD Headquarters, were actual real life events, not a made for TV Movie, nor a Crime Drama episode, where a police officer gets involved in a shooting incident, and reacts by attempting to apprehend an unknown gunman or unknown gunmen inside or on top of a multi story building. And, in a crime drama episode, the officer, although quite excited, enters a ground level first floor, and sees quite visible floor number signs while conducting a search. Although he encounters a building employee that later becomes a shooter suspect on an upper floor, that person was not yet a suspect, but was confirmed to be an employee at work. And, in the crime drama episode, the officer noticed a floor number sign just as the encounter occurs. But, after a quick search, no confirmed or indicated shooter was found, and the music starts just before a commercial break.
After a commercial break, the officer is back at headquarters, all of the exited condition is gone, blood pressure is normal. And, as he is recounting his reaction to the shooting incident, second by second exactly as it occurred, low and behold, the not yet a suspect building employee he had encountered, is now a suspect, primarily for a separate shooting incident, is at headquarters under arrest. Immediately, in the crime drama episode, the officer recognizes the now shooting suspect building employee, beyond doubt, and concludes, also immediately, that it is very likely that the shooting suspect he had encountered, had also fired the shots from the building. Now the music starts, and then a commercial break begins.
However, movies and crime drama episodes are not actual, and as they occurred, real life events. DPD SoloMotorcycleOfficer ML Baker, while escorting the PresidentKennedy Motorcade, reacted with expected excitement and without confirmed law enforcement officer backup, followed his instincts regarding the origin of the shots, parked his motorcycle, entered the closest to him entrance to the TSBD Building, which he was not familiar with, and he had to take steps up to the mid-level landing first floor entrance. Did he know he was entering the first floor, and not the second floor? Although as he entered the TSBD, he was then accompanied by BuildingSuperintendent RS Truly as an escort for direction, he was still without known law enforcement officer backup. So, unfamiliar with the TSBD, after going up steps to enter the mid-level first floor, and dealing with expected human excitement/apprehension, OfficerBaker's initial statement about an encounter on the "third or fourth floor", has to be within the realm of human memory expectation, especially considering the situation in DealyPlaza at 12:30pm CST on November 22, 1963, and the enormous possibilities of physical injury done by a shooter there, at that time. After thorough review, and much better understanding of the TSBD Building layout and flooring construction, and action/reaction reenactment, he was able to confirm the encounter as it occurred at the lunchroom on the second floor.
Real life occurrences are real, as they occur, with real people. They are not TV Crime Dramas, are not with actors for characters, are not with commercial breaks, and especially are not filmed scenes that can be discarded and re-filmed for audience entertainment. And quite disturbing, is that there are those that were not there, were not eyewitnesses, some possibly not yet born before 11/22/'63, yet can be so critical of known eyewitnesses, including OfficerBaker and his actions/reactions. Especially disturbing, is that there are some that declare that now deceased known eyewitnesses are "liars", simply because said eyewitnesses' accounts do not match their own "decided" account of the assassination and/or accompanying events.
Larry
StudentofAssassinationResearch