Clay Shaw’s “Centro Mondiale Commerciale” and its Israeli connections

[Peter Lemkin]

William Kelly did a couple of decent blog posts that looked at connections between the JFK hit and Operation Valkyrie. A lot of them were from Dulles and his friendships back in the day to various nasty folk back in Europe. It's certainly something to consider.

But a lot of those numbered questions posted above can really be answered with the letters 'CIA'. Who had experiencing running plots that had impacted an entire nation? I recall the CIA had a few of those, both before and after the JFK hit

Also, is Valkyrie really a great example when talking about people running a successful plot? I read a book on Valkyrie in the local library. I remember a grim chapter near the end when a majority of participants ended up dead. I recall their plan was to kill Hitler and take command of Germany. Hitler survived and his command continued for some time afterwards. I wish the JFK hit had been as much of a shambolic near miss as the Valkyrie plot was.

It's my opinion that there were only people who would have had the experience to confidently plan a plot of such scope.

I dunno to be honest James. I also disagree with the description of Sirhan being an impulse shooter, for what it's worth. Lisa Pease's book, out in September, should have much to say about that.

Sirhan Sirhan was a mind-controlled patsy who shot from the wrong side and wrong angle to have fired any of the fatal shots. The trigger for him to fire was the polka-dot lady seen running down the fire escape with a man yelling 'we killed him, we killed him' and disappearing into the night with the complicity of the LAPD [who played a major part in the assassination and cover-up]. The real shooter was behind RFK and was likely Eugene Thane Cesar who was supposed to 'guard' RFK and had intelligence connections, sold his incriminating gun, and did all sorts of other incriminating things - and was/is protected by CIA and LAPD to this day. There were other plotters, but not likely other shooters. There were more bullets removed from the ceiling and door frame than could have been in Sirhan's gun - proof that he did not shoot alone. I can't go into all of the details here - there are several good threads on this on this forum and lots of good books - the best one IMO by Turner and Christian which I have three copies of and was never officially published [doesn't exist at the Library of Congress]...it was printed and stacked on pallets ready for distribution when the CIA called the publisher and it was agreed all copies would be destroyed. Some quick thinking forklift drivers who were moving the pallets to the incinerator took home several hundred copies thinking they might make some money selling them....thus preserving a few copies which I eventually got a few of and had Turner sign. It is a lovely hardbound edition that doesn't officially exist....much like our own government which is but a Potemkin Village behind the stage set of which are the Secret Structures that really run most everything - the rest is window dressing to fool these who see the Empire with its clothes on.

Bill Kelly's articles on comparing Valkyrie and Dallas was not so much on that one failed and one sadly succeeded - but in the parallel construction of many of the 'moving parts'. I find his analysis very informative, and suggest his articles on his blog 'JFK countercoup' to any serious researcher.

None of the major [and most of the minor] assassinations took place according to the 'official version'. The official version was a knowing BIG LIE and propaganda smoke screen. I can think of no publicly known assassination in which there really was only a 'lone assassin'...and that would include John Lennon and a list about 50 long or longer. [in that case the doorman was intelligence and special forces connected]. All the 'lone nut assassins' fit a certain profile and planned built-up legends. When will the US Public ever learn?....