29-07-2018, 06:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 29-07-2018, 07:11 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
James Lateer Wrote:It amazes me how many people get really hot over debating JFK issues. I can see people getting very hot over Donald Trump. And I can see people getting hot over, say Jeff Davis or Robert E. Lee. Some people even get really angry about Woodrow Wilson for being a racist.
But I can't really understand why anyone would really get worked up about "scurrilous" information about JFK, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Dwight Eisenhower, etc. etc. etc.
Maybe somebody can tell me what I'm missing in this picture?
James Lateer
The reason some here get 'worked up' about the assassination of JFK, MLK, RFK is because that was the the beginning of the end of USA representative democracy [as weak as it was then]; and the beginning in its full-blown form of the National Security State running the country and the World - our being covertly moved from a flawed tripartite republic to a fascist police/military/corporate/finance/oligarch state - which we have now in all but in name. It was the death of hope and of a chance for democracy just after noon on 11.22.63 and JFK was our last hope [even with his personal and political flaws - he had the Nation behind him and gave us a sense of hope and of positive change being possible]. Now, change is all negative, reactive rather than proactive, reactionary, racist, top-down not bottom up, sexist, militaristic, police-state-like, etc. et al. Suggest you re-read Douglass' book on ...'why it matters'. 11.22.63 was a coup d'etat against the People of the USA and against Democracy in the USA and we have never gotten any part of it back since - in fact, more has been taken away. False-flag 911, for example, could/would never have happened without Dallas - and so many things in between and since. It was the turning point and I too do not feel JFK had a death wish - but you are entitled to whatever your ideas are. Those with the 'death wish' were those who chose to kill him and our polity and hope along with him........ JFK was changing in positive ways, looking for ways to expand democracy for the People and hope for Peace - and that more than anything was too much for those who live in the slime of Military/Police/Control death worship of the fascist kind. Some of us want our Country back and see how unlikely that is even though we have solved the mystery of most of what happened by whom of the various assassinations, government overthrows (including our own), financial conjurers tricks, covert operations, false-flag operations (including Dallas)....etc..... Some of us are MAD as hell we were born in one country and will not die in that country as it no longer exists....it was murdered and continues to be so - unless the People catch on and revolt against the usurpers. Treating this as a Sherlock Holmes parlor game doesn't sit well with me. I educate myself and others on 'all this' in order to take back what we lost and are stealing from others around the World. I do this for fomenting a peaceful Revolution and nothing less and one must be passionate about revolution or it will never succeed. The USA and the World are rapidly dying and I'd put one of the primary inflection points on the dates of the three major assassinations plus 911. Each one of them enrages me, personally. Some do not like to hear only negative things about those who were murdered for political reasons - despite their flaws. They were not perfect, but the TOWERED above those who murdered them and our polity - those who secretly rule now.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass