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Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza
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James Lateer Wrote:I am now reading an excellent book on The Nazis and the Churches. The more we read in the way of The Skorzeny Papers, the more it looks like World War II and the "Cold War" were both part of one "religious crusade." If the Thirty Year's War is agreed to have been a religious war, then I don't see why World War II was any less of a religious war than that.

In the Skorzeny Papers, Ganis reveals that such people as the Tolstoy Foundation (a Russian Orthodox group) along with the Skorzeny-Franco-Peron types were clearly on a religious mission in trying to oppose Communism (and democracy for that matter). And throw in the John Birch Society (possibly a Mormon organization according to Harry Dean).

It looks like World War II, the McCarthy Era, the JFK assassination and the Vietnam War were all part of a basically futile effort to roll back the evil of "atheistic Communism."
In the end, it wasn't that crusade that ended Communism, but rather plain old greed, oligarchs and inertia.

More to come on this thesis.

James Lateer

Well, yes...but... I think what you say is not wrong, but it was a bit more complex. If you read Conjuring Hitler by Preparata ,and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Sutton [and similar books], and look at how people like Prescott Bush and many other American Rich and Right wanted Franco, Hitler and Mussolini [and fascism abroad and at home] - not to mention some of the British and other European 'Royals', the full and very complex picture emerges - that was never told to the Public and still is not. After creating 'Hitler' and 'Nazi Germany' to thwart the USSR [which the US Oligarchs also funded and built up in order to be able to knock down and control the World], they lost control of their Frankenstein and finally had to fight it. Those in power mostly were against the USSR because of religion but more so their 'economic religion' and thus there was a common interest at war's end between the Axis leaders and powerful and those from the Allies - against the USSR...so yes the Cold War began before the guns fell silent in May 1945 and many of the deals were already made or would be in the next weeks and months. Today's 'War on/of Terror is just a continuation of WWI, WWII, Cold War et al. by another name and under another guise. It is the centuries [and longer] continuum of those in power wanting to control the Plebs through War and Deception - promising some economic and democratic security, while offering nothing but crumbs, at best - and really wanting to get back to Feudalism - where IMHO we almost are, albeit this time with smartphones. Religion is a dangerous tool in the hands of most in power - and those who want to rule others will do most anything to do so completely. While the masses want Democracy and Freedom, as well as economic security and advancement, those in power have never wanted to give it to them - only to use it as bait to control them for their own purposes - no matter the country, time or 'system'. This seems to be the endless duality and the period just after WWII - like that before and after - are just points along a continuous line of the People vs. the Rich and Powerful - who's interests are and always will be antithetical. We mostly see the actions of the 'Knights' - rather than their masters, but their masters are the ones calling the shots then as now......welcome to neo-Feudalism of today. I say realize what history has been and is and FIGHT for a change. The murder of JFK and the coup d'etat that it was was a major inflection point downward in the Plebs attempt to win some points in this endless War - and it has IMO been mostly downhill since...... but it need not be. It and 911 and other events - as well as the truth of WWII and Cold War can be used to enlighten the Plebs and make them fight for themselves and not be distracted, lied to and coopted by those who hate them and try to enslave and deny them......::willynilly::
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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