08-12-2008, 06:19 PM
"Resolved: John F. Kennedy was not in control of American foreign policy in regards to South East Asia and Cuba in 1963, having been out maneuvered by Undersecretary of State W. Averell Harriman."
“'Kenny O’Donnell (JFK’s appointments secretary) was convinced that McGeorge Bundy, the national security advisor, was taking orders from Ambassador Averell Harriman and not the president.'"
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Sorry, Cliff, but your argument is at best incomplete.
It is implied in your first quote that Harriman alone out-maneuvered JFK in the areas of Southeast Asian and Cuban policies.
You next imply that Harriman was at the top of the anti-JFK deep political food chain.
If my interpretations of your remarks are correct, then please offer compelling arguments for Harriman's hegemony. Also, please understand the broad implications of such a stance.
If I'm wrong, then who, according to your paradigm, was pulling Harriman's strings?
“'Kenny O’Donnell (JFK’s appointments secretary) was convinced that McGeorge Bundy, the national security advisor, was taking orders from Ambassador Averell Harriman and not the president.'"
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Sorry, Cliff, but your argument is at best incomplete.
It is implied in your first quote that Harriman alone out-maneuvered JFK in the areas of Southeast Asian and Cuban policies.
You next imply that Harriman was at the top of the anti-JFK deep political food chain.
If my interpretations of your remarks are correct, then please offer compelling arguments for Harriman's hegemony. Also, please understand the broad implications of such a stance.
If I'm wrong, then who, according to your paradigm, was pulling Harriman's strings?
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
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-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
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Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene