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Aussie PM dumped by own party
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Mark Stapleton Wrote:
Helen Reyes Wrote:You're not convincing me, Mark, but I'm still listening.

1) Nicaragua broke diplomatic relations with Israel over the flotilla massacre.

2) Indian and Chinese interests fuel sales to them by Australian mining companies (probably multinationals).

3) Not sure what a sayan alarm is, but if you're implying I'm part of the pro-Zionist Megaphone effort, you're barking up the wrong tree.

4) I have no information on ownership of Australian media, please tell me more.

I'm still listening.

Are you just trying to be a pest, Helen?

No, and that's offensive of you to say that.

Quote:1. I know. So?

You just claimed not to know anything about Nicaragua.

Quote:2. Another news flash. As I've already told you, the tax is levied on the mining companies, not the customers. Unlike Zionists, the Indian and Chinese Governments have no history of trying to control western Governments. They couldn't influence public opinion here anyway, because they don't own the mainstream media. I've already told you that too.

The tax is passed onto customers, of course. "No history" is pretty strong language, and incorrect. I asked you to tell me who owns the Australian media.

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3. Sayanim. Google it.

Another offensive reply by you. You used the term. You're implying I'm working to a Zionist agenda I assume, via Megaphone alerts. Please offer proof.

Quote:4. Rupert Murdoch, ardent Zionist, owns newspapers in all Australian cities, usually the main tabloid in those cities, as well as the national newspaper, the Australian.

So your theory Rudd was driven out by order of Israel rests on Murdoch owning tabloud newspapers plus the Australian. Am I getting this right?

Quote:Mainstream Australian newspapers, as well as radio and television stations, including the national broadcaster, are rarely if ever critical of Israel, regardless of its behaviour.

Does "rarely if ever critical" equate to Zionist/Mossad infiltration, or editorial policy, or general Australian opinion?

Quote:You are not listening, otherwise you wouldn't keep raising points I have already answered. Moreover, who cares if you are 'still listening'? Only someone with a rather inflated opinion of themselves would say this.

Yes, I do take myself seriously. I don't like to think I'm wasting my time here. However, this is your thesis. I would like to hear some arguments beyond "Jews control the world" or assumptions of Zionist media control. "Still listening" means I haven't broken off the communication, yet, due to rudeness on your part. But I haven't heard anything convincing yet, including about Whitlam, who was removed by the CIA as I understood it, because of the Hand banking stuff and some threats to intelligence-run drug concessions and production sites.

No offense, Mark Stapleton, but the onus is on you to demonstrate your thesis. I'm just the audience here, not being an Australian, not being a Zionist, not being overly concerned about Rudd one way or another.

Here's an alternate thesis: Rudd's party took the unprecedented step of removing him because the combo of mining tax and COP15 failure, plus some cold political calculations about results in the next election for the party. They did what Labour should've done in the UK when it became clear Blair was not implementing the Labour platform and was leading the party and country into oblivion. The Australians might've factored the Blair phenomenon into their calculations. Just a theory.

Since you sound like you're an Australian, I'd like to ask how much the Jewish community used the press to whip up a furore against Rudd in the preceding months. I'm asking because I do not know.

Does the Australian Jewish community really have the power of the purse strings to dictate to Rudd's party they have him removed? Is this documentable, or is it educated suppostion?

Thank you, Mark, for any clarification you can make to any of the above.
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Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 23-06-2010, 02:42 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 23-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 23-06-2010, 05:46 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 07:04 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 09:22 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 09:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 09:48 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 24-06-2010, 10:42 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 12:06 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 01:00 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 24-06-2010, 01:43 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 24-06-2010, 02:58 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 24-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 04:59 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 05:05 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 24-06-2010, 05:31 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 24-06-2010, 05:42 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 25-06-2010, 12:28 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 25-06-2010, 09:23 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 25-06-2010, 09:53 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 25-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:07 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:12 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:17 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 01:36 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 26-06-2010, 01:46 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 26-06-2010, 05:02 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 05:03 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 05:17 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 26-06-2010, 05:47 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 26-06-2010, 05:52 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 26-06-2010, 07:45 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2010, 02:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 30-06-2010, 10:10 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 30-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 01-07-2010, 01:04 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Helen Reyes - 01-07-2010, 08:20 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 01-07-2010, 09:31 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-07-2010, 06:24 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-07-2010, 06:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Presland - 09-07-2010, 08:56 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 09-07-2010, 02:54 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-07-2010, 03:12 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 09-07-2010, 09:06 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 10-07-2010, 02:27 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 10-07-2010, 03:06 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 10-07-2010, 10:19 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Ed Jewett - 20-07-2010, 04:30 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 22-07-2010, 02:40 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 06-08-2010, 12:14 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 06-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 06-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 21-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 21-08-2010, 02:35 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 21-08-2010, 02:36 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 28-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 31-08-2010, 07:51 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Mark Stapleton - 04-09-2010, 03:41 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Dawson - 05-09-2010, 01:45 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 24-02-2012, 08:28 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 24-02-2012, 05:28 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 24-02-2012, 06:56 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 24-02-2012, 11:52 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 25-02-2012, 03:13 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 25-02-2012, 07:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 25-02-2012, 09:46 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 25-02-2012, 12:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2012, 07:04 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-02-2012, 07:24 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2012, 07:29 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-02-2012, 07:37 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-02-2012, 08:16 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-02-2012, 08:33 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 28-02-2012, 01:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 28-02-2012, 07:47 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:05 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:08 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:11 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:15 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:19 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:24 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 30-05-2012, 04:40 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 11-07-2012, 12:05 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-04-2013, 01:44 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by David Guyatt - 09-04-2013, 02:12 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 09-04-2013, 02:41 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 26-06-2013, 10:53 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Anthony Thorne - 27-06-2013, 12:24 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2013, 01:28 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 27-06-2013, 06:11 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 27-06-2013, 12:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-06-2013, 08:26 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 28-06-2013, 01:14 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Anthony Thorne - 28-06-2013, 12:02 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 29-06-2013, 04:09 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 29-06-2013, 11:41 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Lemkin - 19-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Anthony Thorne - 19-07-2013, 09:37 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 20-07-2013, 12:58 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 04-08-2013, 02:25 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Jan Klimkowski - 04-08-2013, 05:16 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 01-10-2013, 08:42 AM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Magda Hassan - 14-09-2015, 01:45 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by David Guyatt - 14-09-2015, 01:50 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by Peter Presland - 14-09-2015, 03:08 PM
Aussie PM dumped by own party - by David Guyatt - 14-09-2015, 03:44 PM

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