22-08-2010, 11:51 PM
Thomas Christensen Wrote:The potential of psychedelics for positive transformative or ecstatic experiences is well known and as you say need not be at all bad. But there sure is such a thing as a 'bad trip'. Many went on trips never to come home again like Frank Olsen though admittedly he may have had human assistance out the window and not transformed into a bird. With the black shrinks that Jan has referred to above LSD was used on unsuspecting and unconsenting people and children who often were forced to witness the dismemberment of living animals and other delights with the sole purpose of creating psychic trauma. If that's not a bad trip I don't know what is.Keith Millea Wrote:Jeezus,here we go again!Let me repeat,"the last place I would want to trip would be with a Psychoanalyst".A sure fire way to a bad trip
This shows you have absolutely no clue about what these people are doing. They are not trying to perform "psychoanalysis" with their patients during the trip. They actually know about the power of psychedelics, and they understand that this can have value for many different kinds of people, but if you have some kind of psychological problem, it is usually necessary to have some kind of support when you go through what needs to be gone through in order to see your way out of it.
And there is no such thing as a "bad trip". Difficult experiences always has a great potential for learning, or even ecstatic potential, which I wouldn't exactly call bad. But of course, you're free to dismiss this potential as "bad" if you want.
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“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.