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Saint Fletcher the Obscure
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Adrian Mack Wrote:Hey! Is this thing on?!?

Quote:In his book, Prouty goes in more detail, writing that the Group's existence "was so highly classified that there is no record, to this day, of who the men in the group were or with what sectors of the government or private life they were connected." Still, he claimed to have managed an exclusive interview with a "purported member of the Iron Mountain Special Study Group", who told Prouty he "believes that the group's mission was delineated by McNamara, William Bundy, and Dean Rusk." In 1996, Simon & Schuster reprinted the Report, with a new introduction, underlining that the book was a political satire.
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This refers to Prouty's claims to have interviewed an unnamed member of a group that didn't exist.

I'm not trying to be an ass about it. I just want to know WTF?

Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Its pretty clear that Fletcher knew it was fictional.

But there were real attempts by Kennedy to explore the limits of disarmament. These are mentioned in the Martin Schotz book. And this may be what Prouty is referring to.

I agree that Fletcher has been attacked unfairly by the other side. This began with Anson's hit piece in Esquire in which, Stone's chief researcher Jane Rusconi, gave him a lot of material with which to 1.) go after Stone and his sources, and 2.) specifically target Fletcher. Anson then used this to further smear him with that charge that he was published in "girlie" magazines. Like the NY Times was going to print his essays. Recall, Anson also peddled that BS about Garrison and the Mob. (Which I think at one time, Rusconi actually took seriously.) Anson closed his hit piece with a naked lie, that somehow Oliver was backing away from Garrison and Prouty. Which he never did. Anson then went to the first ASK Conference with Rusconi, and he did a hit piece on it. This was his swan song in the JFK field. Which is one reason why I repeatedly attacked him in my first book.

Then came Chip Berlet, Mr. Anti Conspiracy, who used to hang out in Angleton's circles. He went after Fletcher for publishing in Freedom and Barnes Review. You know, the anti Semite smear.

The came Dave Perry and John McAdams, and the Christchurch Star episode. They have used this to discredit both Fletcher and Stone's film. I think these should be countered with specific information. Seamus can supply bullet points for the last.

See, when I was specializing in Garrison, many years ago, I collected all the Mob smears and ran them down. I discovered each one was BS sorted out and spread by his enemies. Me and Bill Davy then demolished them: me in public at COPA and him in his book. The same thing could and should be done with Fletcher.

If I recall right, Anson was the mole inside of the Stone production,
and romanced Rusconi to get inside information. I am not sure whether
it was Anson, Perry, or Russo who was feeding early scripts to Weisberg,
causing Harold to make unverified false claims about the film.

Jack
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Charles Drago - 26-01-2011, 11:25 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 26-01-2011, 11:43 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jack White - 27-01-2011, 12:16 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Keith Millea - 27-01-2011, 01:02 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Charles Drago - 27-01-2011, 01:12 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Phil Dragoo - 27-01-2011, 01:24 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jim DiEugenio - 27-01-2011, 04:18 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 27-01-2011, 08:25 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Dawn Meredith - 27-01-2011, 03:22 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Malcolm Pryce - 27-01-2011, 03:24 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Peter Presland - 27-01-2011, 03:41 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jim DiEugenio - 27-01-2011, 03:49 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Albert Doyle - 27-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Adrian Mack - 27-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-01-2011, 08:25 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Keith Millea - 27-01-2011, 08:53 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by David Guyatt - 27-01-2011, 09:20 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-01-2011, 10:32 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jan Klimkowski - 27-01-2011, 11:06 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 28-01-2011, 04:35 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Peter Lemkin - 28-01-2011, 07:49 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 28-01-2011, 01:11 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 28-01-2011, 01:34 PM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Greg Burnham - 28-01-2011, 03:00 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by David Guyatt - 28-01-2011, 05:01 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Adrian Mack - 29-01-2011, 12:06 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Charles Drago - 29-01-2011, 02:44 AM
Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Jim DiEugenio - 29-01-2011, 03:10 AM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Seamus Coogan - 18-02-2011, 01:57 AM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 23-02-2011, 01:07 PM
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Saint Fletcher the Obscure - by Bernice Moore - 25-02-2011, 08:24 AM
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