02-02-2011, 06:39 PM
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:Jack White Wrote:Allan Eaglesham Wrote:Jack White Wrote:My, Morgan...so much indignation over such a trifle. If Mr. and Mrs. Adams
are totally truthful and Adams IS the man in the suspicious photo, and even
if Jim and I agree to that, IT IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to the JFK case. All it
does is guarantee that the man is NOT Conein. I have already stated that
comparison of the photos is INCONCLUSIVE. What that means is that it is
not provable from the photo that it is either Adams or Conein. In any event,
I have stated repeatedly that it cannot be proved to be either...so it is a
meaningless distraction. It is NOT important if it is Adams. It is only important
if it can be proved to be Conein. I do not see it as an absurd situation at all;
a spectator who resembles Conein and Adams is seen in a "suspicious" photo.
Researchers disagree over the significance of this image. In any event it does
not change information that Prouty said Conein was in DP, that Conein was
in Fort Worth the previous night, or that this man is standing in the midst of
about five "doppelgangers" or lookalikes for known CIA personnel. I concur with
Prouty that Lansdale and Conein were involved and both in DP.
This is not a "federal case" since nothing has been proved yet, and is not likely
to be proven. I see no reason for anyone to bother Mrs. Adams, since if she
is correct, her information is totally irrelevant. It would be important ONLY if
she said it was not her husband.
Thanks for you interest and comments.
Jack
After twenty-one pages and >6,000 viewings, the issue at hand is now a "trifle." It would be important if the evidence corroborated the theory that Conein was on the corner of Houston and Main, but it's "irrelevant" that the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't Conein. Yeah, right.
When I wrote to Fletcher Prouty, drawing his attention to the Conein look-alike, he responded: "...I noted this same photo you have found and the likeness between that person and Lou...I'd say that the guy is Conein." Well, now we know that "the guy" was not Conein. I suspect that Col. Prouty would be glad to have this issue tied down. I don't believe he would view it as trifling or irrelevant.
IF the man on the corner can be proved to be Adams, it is indeed irrelevant
to the JFK assassination. BUT IF it is Adams, that does not mean that Conein was
NOT in DP. It does mean that a LOOKALIKE for Conein was also there. The photo
also shows "lookalikes" for Gerry Patrick Hemming and Rip Robertson standing
by Adams. Who were these lookalikes? What are the odds of one picture showing
3 lookalikes for 3 CIA operatives associated with the assassination? Even if all
three are not the people they look like, THAT IS HARDLY TRIFLING.
As for Prouty, I do not believe that he was accept at face value that the image
is that of Adams. He tended to look beyond "official explanations."
Jack
Tell me, Jack -- who accepted AT FACE VALUE that the image is that of Adams? I certainly did not.
No one has said that Conein was not in Dealey Plaza, although you and Fetzer keep implying it; it's a convenient smoke screen. And "trifle" was your word, not mine.
Morgan...I am not an investigator. I analyze photos. I do not make
trips to interview witnesses. I do not make long distance phone calls.
I am mainly interested in looking at evidence like photos, documents
and books.
Looking at the Eaglesham original identification of the Altgens man
as Conein, I was impressed that there was a great resemblance. Years
later when he changed his mind and said NO, IT WAS A MAN NAMED
ADAMS, I looked at photos he sent me of Adams and was NOT equally
impressed. Most of the Adams photos he sent did NOT look like the
man in Altgens (only one did). But the fact that there was a Dallas
lookalike for the man diminished the chances of the photo showing
Conein, but did not eliminate them. I made my position well known
on JFK forums for several years. The Altgens man is NOT IMPORTANT
if it is NOT Conein, whether it is Adams or anyone else.
My position remains UNCHANGED from the time Adams was introduced
into the scene. PHOTO COMPARISONS are inconclusive. There is a
VERY STRONG REASON that I do not ID Adams in photo comparisons.
The supranasal ridge is totally different. ADAMS PHOTOS show a man
with VERY WIDELY SPACED EYEBROWS, as I have shown and stated
on every occasion. The Altgens man has closely spaced eyebrows.
Therefore, BASED ON PHOTOS (and not witness interviews nor opinions
of others) I cannot change my opinion that comparison of photos
is inconclusive.
In the investigation of the murder of JFK, the misidentification of lack
of identification of spectators along the curb route, IS A TRIFLE lacking
significance, UNLESS an UNIDENTIFIED person can be identified as
someone of suspicion. IF the man on the curb IS Adams, it is totally
irrelevant to the investigation. IF the man is associated with the CIA,
it becomes very relevant. To me, this is self apparent, and I see no
reason to change any conclusion I have drawn from study of photos.
Attached is an additional photo of Adams. Note the great distance
between the eyebrows over the nose, not present in the "Altgens"
photo.
Keep warm. It is 11 degrees here right now.
Jack