29-07-2011, 04:46 PM
(This post was last modified: 29-07-2011, 09:48 PM by Greg Burnham.)
Quote:Gary Severson said: "This is true but it's the second hottest year ever recorded in the U.S., and the hottest in the last 73 years."[partial quote]
Without addressing everything in your post, Gary, due to lack of time, still doesn't it seem odd to you that the hottest temps occurred in 1929 if temperature increase is actually being driven by man made factors that are far more prevalent today than they were in 1929, primarily a human caused increase in levels of atmospheric C02 as alarmists claim?
Logic does not lose context.
If an increase in C02 is causing temperatures to rise, and if C02 is being dangerously increased by human activity, namely automobiles and the like, then why was this effect more prevalent in 1929 (when there existed far fewer automobiles and C02 producing industries) than it was in the 1930's, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's, 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, for example? And, why is the temperature cooling again over the last decade if an increase in human contributions to atmospheric C02 is the root of the problem when we know that those things that are claimed to increase it (cars, etc) are in far greater usage?
What caused this increase in temperature in 1929? Could it have been solar activity instead of C02? If so, is that not the likely cause today? If not, why not? Can you explain why C02 has historically risen AFTER temperature has increased and not before? Can you explain why the hockey stick effect, which has been proved to be erroneous, has not been disavowed by those who originally promoted that myth within the scientific community and within the alarmist community, such as, Al Gore?
As you know, I believe strongly that CHAOS THEORY prohibits the ability of man to predict the behavior of random, non-linear, complex systems--such as the weather--beyond a very short temporal interval. Even when--what seem to be relatively minor--errors in initial conditions used to calculate future behavior of such non-linear systems occur due to human infallibility, the resultant mathematical outcome can be astronomically miscalculated. This has been demonstrated literally thousands, if not millions, of times over.
So, even though I can not say with certainty that humans are incapable of negatively impacting the climate of our planet, I can say with certainty that humans are incapable of PREDICTING such a thing. Those who claim they can predict the behavior of a random, non-linear, complex system are either misinformed, delusional, self important, or simply mistaken.
GO_SECURE
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)

