27-06-2012, 05:13 PM
(This post was last modified: 27-06-2012, 08:39 PM by Seamus Coogan.)
Albert Doyle Wrote:While all true, I have trouble dismissing the actual circumstances of the murder itself. To be honest I think it's a mistake to dismiss the possibility of CIA involvement in the murder knowing what we know about their methods vis a vis hypnotic assassination etc. Yes, a chain of uncredibility can be established by tracing Janney's sources and methods but that doesn't mean that the actual murder itself wasn't a covert event. When analyzing the description of the witnessing it is still well within CIA capability for covert murder. For example OJ Simpson's cut hand could be used to indict him in an identical way, but we now know there was much more to it than that. Mark David Chapman was pretty friggin guilty and right out front, however we know there was much more to it than that.
If Crump's zipper was unzipped does that mean he was going to rape her in the middle of the canal path? Kind of an unprivate place in my opinion. I think it is a mistake to mix unsound research with conclusions of unsound theories. If you analyze CIA covert murder practices it is still possible Crump shot Mary Meyer but was acting for others. To me hasty rejection of covert murder based on critical methodology is almost as bad as unsound conclusions from bad sources and research.
Al I don't think it was hasty mate nothing LP does is hasty. The problem is that Mary Meyer had buggar all to with JFK, at least in the way it has been pushed by Janney and co. Their sources are just not credible in the slightest. I go along with Jim and Lisa's angle based primarily on the lack of cred with the aforementioned sources, as I have done since I first read the old Probe articles on the case.
I agree with Jim here that Lisa, may have actually been to nice. She writes...
If Crump was truly framed for a crime he didn't commit, the CIA theory is at least possible, if not exactly probable. But if Crump actually committed the crime, then Janney's thesis, and indeed, the thrust of his whole story, goes out the window. So let's examine that issue first, based on the evidence Janney presents.
The first and most pertinant line concerning what I'll say herein indicates from Lisa, that if Crump didn't do it, then the CIA theory could at least be 'plausible'. Nonetheless, I think Lisa could have carried on a little further here. If just if, per chance she was killed by some hitman as claimed by Janney (it really doesn't look to flash on this, but I'll play devils advocate). Due to the utterly shite evidence linking her to Kennedy in some machiavellian intrigue. The Meyer 'hit' could well have been done for some other 'deep politcal' reason. Which may well have had absloutely nothing to do with Kennedy at all. But has simply been bandied about for conveniant time wasting and obfuscation purposes. JFK was an important figure, but as I effectively said in the other Meyer thread, the world didn't revolve around him. So all in all it looks pretty grim for any type of JFK related 'chaff's' having much to do with her death by some psycho or some hit man, however it was carried out. Hey also I'm stoked Dawn read the review as well. Dawn, I told you it would be pretty good! However you and CD were right one of my more recents posts on the other thread sucked ROFL. Dawn I still can't get over that fake letter from Lisa the guy still has up...what an asshole! I feel ashamed till now I had forgotten about that one! Sheeesh.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992