26-07-2012, 01:37 AM
The only connection Marilyn Monroe would have with Mary Meyer would be sex pot. Otherwise there's no comparison to the political front seat Meyer had both socially and through her background and marriage. In the end Monroe and Majestic are totally irrelevant to the Mary Meyer case.
Notice Al I said 'much like' this was concerning a diary. Both supposed diaries are bullshit in all reality. Of course MJ-12 and MM have nothing to do with Meyer. The similarities is the bollocks and hype surrounding the stuff they had both written supposedly detailing their times with JFK. I fail to see how you can make a connection here, its very obvious if you had read my piece on MJ-12 that you would know what I was getting at. Nonetheless, As Jim points out in his essay in the original Janney transcript, he was going to go with the idea of Meyer apparently discussing UFO's with him. I'm reading this piece of work at the moment and what a total and utter crock it is.
So why the hell did you bring this bullshit up? Quit wasting my time!
In my mind Jim has failed to answer for the intruders. I read his referenced post. He said it already answered it. I don't think it did. Jim makes the logical assumption that since the diary is false therefore the home intrusions are false, since the diary didn't exist. Frankly I don't think CTKA would let someone else get away with a logical violation like that.
Where in words has Jim said any intrusion is false? He say's its 'confusing' he says the stories veracity is also dubious because of the individuals involved in the recycling of the story. If you believe that Angleton apprehended this mythical diary to safe guard Kennedy you have to be joking. That's a violation of logic as far as I can tell.
The intrusions exist by themselves. I believe they were real. I think Jim still hasn't accounted for them. If they were real the intruders were looking for something. What were they looking for and why? I think you and Jim fail to realize that even if the diaries were bogus the intruders could still have been looking for them. And the reason they were looking for them could still be associated with Mary Meyer's death. In my mind the intruders are the crack in the door to discounting conspiracy in Meyer's death. Of course the intruder accounts were second-hand. They had to be since Mary Meyer was dead.
This is more than a little confusing Albert. You have to remember that Jim has discussed at length we are dealing with the Truitt's and the Angleton's here. Liars of the worst kind, not to mention Ben Bradlee, something of a shameless self promoter on the other. The 'intruders' were looking for something? A diary that you acknowledge likely wasn't there? Yet, you are now saying they could have believed a diary was there? Hence, the reason for an invasion of her house? Well, first off If we look at Janneys book on the case (I can't quote you page numbers on the copy I have they are non-existant/how crap is that) he never makes out there was an invasion of her place. There probably was some sort of meeting, but when a next of kin dies often friends and family gather around sorting through stuff. If she had agency connections and was a society girl, I can imagine the CIA nosing around before the FBI stuck their nose in. Big freaking deal man! As Jim say's Ben Bradlee's rendition of this whole thing is the best of a very bad bunch. The only real person who said there was anything of worth was Bradlee's Wife and Mary's sister. Secondly, the Diary soon became a sketchbook according to Tony Bradlee, the sketchbook then turned back into a diary that was the kept in a safe (under Rosenbaum's reportage). All of this crap went down under a cloud of dislike between Bradlee and Angleton and the Truitt's. Janney's take on Angleton taking the fictional diary to protect JFK's rep as said is a crock of shite.
I myself, personally, would be less interested in broad swipes at the suggestion of conspiracy and more interested in the specific details of why Cord Meyer said his wife was killed by "the same sons of bitches that killed Kennedy"
Okay for starters is Meyer meaning Communists or anybody else amongst the CIA's bum of the month club? Further, that's if he even said it Al, are you meaning to tell me we should believe anything coming from the mouth of Heymann and his awful book 'The George Town Ladies Social Club'? Heymann claims he contacted Cord Meyers secretary Carol Delaney, who commented along the lines he couldn't very well come out and say the CIA did it. Janney, then inquired after Delaney. He then say's Delaney refused to comment and contacted the Meyers and everybody shut up shop. Why on earth is this twit then surprised about CIA acting like the mob I don't know. He was part of an agency family wasn't he? Heymann himself refused to give Janney any evidence of this claim...which to Janney's small credit he mentions challenging Heymann on. Heymann then became rather nasty concerning his lack of evidence. Oh when worlds collide. Indeed Janney reminds me of you Al, clinging on for the smallest hint of hope.
Notice Al I said 'much like' this was concerning a diary. Both supposed diaries are bullshit in all reality. Of course MJ-12 and MM have nothing to do with Meyer. The similarities is the bollocks and hype surrounding the stuff they had both written supposedly detailing their times with JFK. I fail to see how you can make a connection here, its very obvious if you had read my piece on MJ-12 that you would know what I was getting at. Nonetheless, As Jim points out in his essay in the original Janney transcript, he was going to go with the idea of Meyer apparently discussing UFO's with him. I'm reading this piece of work at the moment and what a total and utter crock it is.
So why the hell did you bring this bullshit up? Quit wasting my time!
In my mind Jim has failed to answer for the intruders. I read his referenced post. He said it already answered it. I don't think it did. Jim makes the logical assumption that since the diary is false therefore the home intrusions are false, since the diary didn't exist. Frankly I don't think CTKA would let someone else get away with a logical violation like that.
Where in words has Jim said any intrusion is false? He say's its 'confusing' he says the stories veracity is also dubious because of the individuals involved in the recycling of the story. If you believe that Angleton apprehended this mythical diary to safe guard Kennedy you have to be joking. That's a violation of logic as far as I can tell.
The intrusions exist by themselves. I believe they were real. I think Jim still hasn't accounted for them. If they were real the intruders were looking for something. What were they looking for and why? I think you and Jim fail to realize that even if the diaries were bogus the intruders could still have been looking for them. And the reason they were looking for them could still be associated with Mary Meyer's death. In my mind the intruders are the crack in the door to discounting conspiracy in Meyer's death. Of course the intruder accounts were second-hand. They had to be since Mary Meyer was dead.
This is more than a little confusing Albert. You have to remember that Jim has discussed at length we are dealing with the Truitt's and the Angleton's here. Liars of the worst kind, not to mention Ben Bradlee, something of a shameless self promoter on the other. The 'intruders' were looking for something? A diary that you acknowledge likely wasn't there? Yet, you are now saying they could have believed a diary was there? Hence, the reason for an invasion of her house? Well, first off If we look at Janneys book on the case (I can't quote you page numbers on the copy I have they are non-existant/how crap is that) he never makes out there was an invasion of her place. There probably was some sort of meeting, but when a next of kin dies often friends and family gather around sorting through stuff. If she had agency connections and was a society girl, I can imagine the CIA nosing around before the FBI stuck their nose in. Big freaking deal man! As Jim say's Ben Bradlee's rendition of this whole thing is the best of a very bad bunch. The only real person who said there was anything of worth was Bradlee's Wife and Mary's sister. Secondly, the Diary soon became a sketchbook according to Tony Bradlee, the sketchbook then turned back into a diary that was the kept in a safe (under Rosenbaum's reportage). All of this crap went down under a cloud of dislike between Bradlee and Angleton and the Truitt's. Janney's take on Angleton taking the fictional diary to protect JFK's rep as said is a crock of shite.
I myself, personally, would be less interested in broad swipes at the suggestion of conspiracy and more interested in the specific details of why Cord Meyer said his wife was killed by "the same sons of bitches that killed Kennedy"
Okay for starters is Meyer meaning Communists or anybody else amongst the CIA's bum of the month club? Further, that's if he even said it Al, are you meaning to tell me we should believe anything coming from the mouth of Heymann and his awful book 'The George Town Ladies Social Club'? Heymann claims he contacted Cord Meyers secretary Carol Delaney, who commented along the lines he couldn't very well come out and say the CIA did it. Janney, then inquired after Delaney. He then say's Delaney refused to comment and contacted the Meyers and everybody shut up shop. Why on earth is this twit then surprised about CIA acting like the mob I don't know. He was part of an agency family wasn't he? Heymann himself refused to give Janney any evidence of this claim...which to Janney's small credit he mentions challenging Heymann on. Heymann then became rather nasty concerning his lack of evidence. Oh when worlds collide. Indeed Janney reminds me of you Al, clinging on for the smallest hint of hope.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992