16-10-2012, 05:25 PM
Excusez Moi Lauren...
This may apply to you:
"Bingo. Agreeing to disagree does not cut it with INSERT NAME . (S) He does not know what (s)he is disagreeing with. Wilfull ignorance is on display over and over again."
I understand this forum is named "Deep Politics" :
My thrust has always been to shed light on the technical aspects of the WTC destruction. Many seem to assume a priori that 9-11 was a deep political event, ergo a MIHOP if you will, a complex and grand conspiracy where everything was choreographed and nothing was left to happenstance... Hollywood come to life... thousands of actors, scripts and using the most advanced systems for command, control, PR and of course demolition and an army of dis info agents to sew confusion.
My political perspective is to not trust authority and this has been proven on 9-11 as the official narrative contains so many lies and deceptions as to bare little resemblance to reality.
There is little doubt that there is an unstated agenda of hegemony and world domination carried out by the MIC for the corporations who have essentially hijacked what little democracy existed in this country. There is also little doubt that the people around the world are reacting to this and taking up arms and engaging in asymmetrical warfare (terrorism) as they have no other means to address their grievances. Terrorism exists. And terrorism is manipulated for the political objectives of the *empire*. In fact MOST catastrophies that occur are manipulated for the political objectives of the *empire*. Katrina Fukishima come to mind as does ... dare I say... 9-11.
The deep staters (and 9-11 truthers) seem to dismiss the notion that 9-11 could have been a *hybrid event*... terrorism (exploited, facilitated, managed)... and a natural-like disaster... manipulated for the political objective as suggested by Naomi Klein in The Shock Doctrine -- the rise of Disaster Capitalism. This makes it more of a LIHOP event without the complex and grand conspiracy where everything was choreographed and nothing was left to happenstance... than a MIHOP where a complex and grand conspiracy where everything was choreographed and nothing was left to happenstance.
I'm in the LIHOP camp at present because my technical research does not confirm CD or any devices were required to collapse any of the 3 towers... that is... they were a series of cascading growing progressive structural failures which when they reached a critical level... each of the towers no longer could stand up. The plane strikes seem to have provided the initial damage / weakening. But this alone was not sufficient. There were multiple factors which acted synergistically to reach the critical point where the structure was overwhelmed.
Of course one can deny the engineering, observations and physics and read into the event what you want to and come up with whatever experts who will support your narrative and call anyone who disagrees willfully ignorant. I've been working on this for over 4 yrs and I would not call that willful ignorance as much as I would those who make claims without having done any heavy lifting in terms of science and physics... but cite experts in areas where they themselves know little or nothing. And them slam anyone who disagrees as a dis info agent and a shill for the official narrative.
(S) He does not know what (s)he is disagreeing with. Wilfull ignorance is on display over and over again."
Oh my.. what hubris on display.
This may apply to you:
"Bingo. Agreeing to disagree does not cut it with INSERT NAME . (S) He does not know what (s)he is disagreeing with. Wilfull ignorance is on display over and over again."
I understand this forum is named "Deep Politics" :
The Deep Politics Forum is an online community dedicated to shining light into the shadowy reaches of historical and contemporary deep political systems.
We aim to expose deep political objectives, strategies, tactics, and operatives, and to understand their social, economic, and cultural impacts.
Our mission transcends academic inquiry, which we accept as an invaluable tactic in a broader strategy to wield knowledge and truth as weapons in a coordinated assault on the manipulators who operate within deep political shadows.
We aim to expose deep political objectives, strategies, tactics, and operatives, and to understand their social, economic, and cultural impacts.
Our mission transcends academic inquiry, which we accept as an invaluable tactic in a broader strategy to wield knowledge and truth as weapons in a coordinated assault on the manipulators who operate within deep political shadows.
My thrust has always been to shed light on the technical aspects of the WTC destruction. Many seem to assume a priori that 9-11 was a deep political event, ergo a MIHOP if you will, a complex and grand conspiracy where everything was choreographed and nothing was left to happenstance... Hollywood come to life... thousands of actors, scripts and using the most advanced systems for command, control, PR and of course demolition and an army of dis info agents to sew confusion.
My political perspective is to not trust authority and this has been proven on 9-11 as the official narrative contains so many lies and deceptions as to bare little resemblance to reality.
There is little doubt that there is an unstated agenda of hegemony and world domination carried out by the MIC for the corporations who have essentially hijacked what little democracy existed in this country. There is also little doubt that the people around the world are reacting to this and taking up arms and engaging in asymmetrical warfare (terrorism) as they have no other means to address their grievances. Terrorism exists. And terrorism is manipulated for the political objectives of the *empire*. In fact MOST catastrophies that occur are manipulated for the political objectives of the *empire*. Katrina Fukishima come to mind as does ... dare I say... 9-11.
The deep staters (and 9-11 truthers) seem to dismiss the notion that 9-11 could have been a *hybrid event*... terrorism (exploited, facilitated, managed)... and a natural-like disaster... manipulated for the political objective as suggested by Naomi Klein in The Shock Doctrine -- the rise of Disaster Capitalism. This makes it more of a LIHOP event without the complex and grand conspiracy where everything was choreographed and nothing was left to happenstance... than a MIHOP where a complex and grand conspiracy where everything was choreographed and nothing was left to happenstance.
I'm in the LIHOP camp at present because my technical research does not confirm CD or any devices were required to collapse any of the 3 towers... that is... they were a series of cascading growing progressive structural failures which when they reached a critical level... each of the towers no longer could stand up. The plane strikes seem to have provided the initial damage / weakening. But this alone was not sufficient. There were multiple factors which acted synergistically to reach the critical point where the structure was overwhelmed.
Of course one can deny the engineering, observations and physics and read into the event what you want to and come up with whatever experts who will support your narrative and call anyone who disagrees willfully ignorant. I've been working on this for over 4 yrs and I would not call that willful ignorance as much as I would those who make claims without having done any heavy lifting in terms of science and physics... but cite experts in areas where they themselves know little or nothing. And them slam anyone who disagrees as a dis info agent and a shill for the official narrative.
(S) He does not know what (s)he is disagreeing with. Wilfull ignorance is on display over and over again."
Oh my.. what hubris on display.