08-11-2012, 01:37 AM
Greg Burnham Wrote:David Josephs Wrote:[snip]
Khrushchev is said to have annulled the plan, but Soviet agents were unable to reach Oswald before Khrushchev's annulment order could be executed.
I don't know who you are quoting there, David, but that is not what Pacepa asserts. Unless, the phrase "reach Oswald" in this context means "find and terminate Oswald".
The author contends not that Oswald was unaware of the abort order, but rather, that he chose to ignore the abort order. Therefore, if we are to believe this fanciful tale
it means that Khrushchev originally had ordered a hit on JFK, but due to his hand having been exposed in similar wet operation activities, he decided to abort the plan.
The abort order was successfully transmitted to Oswald, but Oswald chose to ignore it. The only recourse from Moscow would have been to "get to Oswald" before he could
complete the mission and prevent him from executing it by taking him out. Which begs us to ask: If Ruby was a Zionist, formerly NKVD, with current ties to Moscow, was he
remiss in his duties by having failed to prevent Oswald from killing Kennedy, which would explain his anxiety leading up to his finally fulfilling his mission albeit after-the-fact?
Ruby's belated action would indeed have prevented Oswald from implicating Moscow in a court room. But, would there be a benefit to Zionism in the exchange? IOW: Did Ruby
fail to prevent the assassination in order to thwart KGB, but succeed in silencing Oswald after the fact in order to serve Zionistic interests?
Sorry Greg... that's a wiki quote....
How exactly would Ruby get info that the Russian leader wanted to abort the assassination? Remember Nagell was convinced it would be in September.
Wouldn't this also require that Chicago and Tampa were also KGB backed? (Those appeared much more like a mafia/CIA type plan... and I NEED to ask if you know... who was the PATSY in Tampa going to be? Where they ALL potential Russians? I fail to see how Valle could be associated with the Russians... but then again... that's why I come to these forums... to find out...)
I have a very difficult time believing Khrushchev would order such a hit... Lulling the WEST to sleep was partly his plan... what better way than to keep talks of detente alive, the softening of the communist threat, all the while building it up via the counter intelligence sections...
To get Oswald actually shooting the president requires the dismissal of an awful lot of contradictory evidence. Not to mention a "trail of evidence" that was created that leads right to his door...
So one asks..."Who would the KGB want Oswald associated with, in this grand plan?" ALL of the evidence points to Cuban involvement with a taste of Mafia and rogue CIA thrown in, plus some right wing nuts for good measure (which, imo would be the BEST group to lay the assassination on as this creates even greater internal strife within the battling Civil rights process... one of Sun Tzu's tactics.
US attacks Cuba, Russia/KGB can escalate their "war".... which is what LBJ's "handlers" would want so everyone makes money and the fight comes to the western hemisphere.
Covering up CUBAN involvement to avoid WWIII creates the exact opposite result desired...
Vietnam moves forward as planned...
The USA builds up its forces within a stone's throw from USSR, the drug money POURS in, the MIC is making money hand over fist...
How does Pacepa reconcile the actual act itself and the reality that Oswald was more than likely in the lunchroom at the time?
Unless we have LEE up there ...