18-04-2009, 05:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 18-04-2009, 07:56 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Magda Hassan Wrote:I don't really understand the rationale for the courts decision and it seems they have been lent on politically. Using their 'logic' shops where kitchen tools are sold could be charged with making the means of murder by knife available, auto makers could be charged with making hit and run or drive by shootings happen or armed hold up escapes possible. I don't think that in this case anyone can be responsible for the actions of others and in this case there is no proof that a third party has acted illegally anyway. You would have to close down the whole internet because some people use the internet for illegal purposes. Telephones are used to make obscene phone calls too but nobody talks about eliminating phone companies.
As I mentioned in a previous post here there is also a connection to wikileaks which is not being covered by the MSM. I am sure that TPTB would like to see them both gone. Information is a dangerous thing in the hands of the people.
Monsanto and others have literally stolen plants and animals DNA in part and some whole and made it their own via patents - and this is, so far, judged as legal. Montsanto also produced DDT and PCBs which pollute [and cause cancer in] every living animal on Earth....and they haven't been held accountable for that either. Nor the USA for invading and stealing Iraq and its oil for a few years while killing a million or so. Corporate and State theft and harm/killing is OK; the rest of us better watch out! The point about Google being equally guilty is a VERY interesting one - but 4 non-conformists were a much easier and the preferred target. I believe what is behind this is not so much about loss of profits, but control over information flow on the internet, which has many behind the curtain very edgy. Will be interesting to see what comes of this and I'd expect many, MANY similar suits all over, but mostly in USA - real soon. Of course no one is going to follow Magda's logic and get intelligence-connected Palladin Press in Court [they publish books on how to kill, make bombs, pick locks, plan ambushes, etc. etc.]. Nor is the NSA for sucking-up and storing every bit of every upload and download, every bit and byte on the internet. Get the little guys. Pirate's Bay also had stuff about JFK, 911 and such. Were they really after the music downloads? Doubt those who leaned on the judge cared about non-political music or videos, really. That was just the cover-story IMO.
Stepping back one step from the internet, this could mean all librarians should be locked-up and fined - and all you who copied a tape back in the 70s through 90s - or ever loaned a friend a book..... ad infinitum.
NB - Wikileaks looks like a hot site, indeed.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass