22-01-2013, 03:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 22-01-2013, 08:34 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
You certainly did NOT understand any of my posts in this thread if you thought I was saying a 'revolution' had to be violent, and not a change of paradigms and ideas / ways of doing things / civil disobedience and the right to assemble and address grievances - not to mention free speech! Power has never conceded anything - be it a right, freedom or truth without active pressure or demonstrations/resistance/strikes/etc. from the mass of the society...NEVER!...and likely less so now when they feel so nearly in full control of their neo-feudal serfs.
A 'truth' and reconciliation whatever will never be allowed and even if it were, it wouldn't suit me. They killed not only JFK and all the others, LOOK what they have done to the very fabric of our society and polity - what part remains intact? Not a shred! We either take it back or loose it ALL [now about 95% lost] very, very soon......gulags and torture, all that goes with a complete fascist police state....your choice?....not mine.
That said, and with the fervent commitment to non-violence, there sometimes does come a time in history, when there is nothing left by defensive resistance. If I may quote JFK here, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." [JFK 1962] And from MLK, "There Comes A Time When Silence Becomes Complicity".
"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." ― Frederick Douglass
A 'truth' and reconciliation whatever will never be allowed and even if it were, it wouldn't suit me. They killed not only JFK and all the others, LOOK what they have done to the very fabric of our society and polity - what part remains intact? Not a shred! We either take it back or loose it ALL [now about 95% lost] very, very soon......gulags and torture, all that goes with a complete fascist police state....your choice?....not mine.
That said, and with the fervent commitment to non-violence, there sometimes does come a time in history, when there is nothing left by defensive resistance. If I may quote JFK here, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." [JFK 1962] And from MLK, "There Comes A Time When Silence Becomes Complicity".
"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." ― Frederick Douglass
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass