11-03-2013, 08:22 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:David, Prof. Titovits, who I've been in email contact with, and I think is an honest and trustworthy person, met someone named Oswald in Minsk and was his best friend there. He will be in Dallas this year....but even if you [or others] are not going, I can forward any photos to him, to ask him which seem similar [or more similar] to the Oswald he knew in the USSR. I too think there were two main 'Oswalds' in the years before Dallas [I'm not as sure the doppleganger plan went back all the way to childhood...but I don't rule it out]. A few others, who only bore a passing resemblance to 'Oswald' the patsy, were also increasingly at play in the weeks before the Dallas murder to further set him up. As told in The Man Who Knew Too Much, Nagell had a Soviet controller [as well as a CIA one...maybe one other]; so the Soviets knew or suspected Oswald or others were being prepared to be either assassins or patsies. Thus, they were doing their own investigation before [certainly were interested in the Amerian false defectors!] and have likely done EXTENSIVE investigation after...so I'm not surprised they can come up with footage we've not seen before.
Well put Peter - agree completely. The "2 Oswalds" were not, imo, leading to JFK but part of the cat-and-mouse games the CIA/KGB were playing with the world.
As anyone who has studied CIA "masterminds" - they used the assets and resources at their disposal... ALL of them and in more cases than not those involved had no idea of the end game.
Angleton and the rest of the gang of the time were ruthless, period, and treated "assets" as the disposable pawns they were.
The entire DEEP POLITICS of the period allows us to understand the conspiracy mindset and the "ends justify the means" processes.
We are looking at 100,000 jigsaw pieces spread out across the floor yet our mosaic requires only 10,000.
Which pieces belong, which are herrings, and whether ANY of the 100,000 pieces belong with real 10,000 is our quandry. I'd venture to say that we'll NEVER see more than 25% of the REAL puzzle peices
as most have been destroyed/replaced long ago or will never see the light of day.
Anyone believing that definitive statements can be made is fooling themselves....
As Jim D stated so eloquently, "Unless you were there, you really don't know"... in this case, even if you WERE there, you may not really know...
All we do know is the LNer position is indefensible... and more time and effort was spent STOPPING investigations than facilitating them
We spend time defining the puzzle peices... Salandria's minutia...
and think lofty thoughts about how we'll take on the CFR and all its tentacles.
The top of this pyramid supercedes change, IMO.
The American people, since World War II, or
World War I, or the Spanish American War -- take your choice -- have witnessed
the tip of many criminal icebergs. The official investigations of the criminal
icebergs almost always stopped at the waterline. The other 90 percent of the
criminal icebergs were never hauled onto the beach for complete examination,
prosecution and correction.
World War I, or the Spanish American War -- take your choice -- have witnessed
the tip of many criminal icebergs. The official investigations of the criminal
icebergs almost always stopped at the waterline. The other 90 percent of the
criminal icebergs were never hauled onto the beach for complete examination,
prosecution and correction.
The criminal cases of 1980 to the present are
in perfect harmony with this honored tradition. This is, of course, why
Americans are the most profoundly ignorant people on planet earth. The illusion
of knowledge is far worse than knowing you don't know.
in perfect harmony with this honored tradition. This is, of course, why
Americans are the most profoundly ignorant people on planet earth. The illusion
of knowledge is far worse than knowing you don't know.
"The American system isthe most ingenious system of control in world history. With a country so rich in natural resources, talent, and labor power the system can afford to distribute just enough to just enough people to limit discontent to a troublesome minority. It is a country so powerful, so big, so pleasing to so many of its citizens that it can afford to give freedom of dissent to the small number who are not pleased. How wise to turn the fear and anger of the majority toward a class of criminals bred - by economic inequity - faster than they can be put away, deflecting attention from the huge thefts of national resources carried out within the law by men in executive offices."
Howard Zinn: A People's History of the United States
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter