27-03-2013, 01:13 AM
Upon arriving at the Bethesda Hospital, Kellerman bolts from the car leaving Greer, Jackie, Bobby and the Casket in the Navy ambulance at the front of the hospital... he claims not to know how to get to the morgue.
This occurs just at 6:55pm -
At 7:17 according to Siebert, O'Neill, and Greer MEET KELLERMAN AT THE MORGUE'S ENTRANCE, these four men unload the BRONZE casket from the Navy ambulance with a transport on wheels
and leave it in the morgue's anteroom... The FBI agents DO NOT see the body at this time...
At 8pm the Joint Casket Bearer Team OFFICIALLY takes this SAME casket back into the Morgue... Humes claims the autopsy begins at 8:15....
Dennis David and an xray tech actually see the navy ambulance out front after unloading a shipping casket and WHILE processing JFK's xrays
It is thought that KELLERMAN orchestrated the return of JFK to the LARGE casket for the official "entry" and was orchestrating most of the SS activities...
(was it not Kellerman who has the argument with Rose at Parkland?)
Mr. KELLERMAN. This I can't truly answer. However, I should say that, as for the
casket being brought into the hospital, another gentleman came into this little
doctor's room, his name I don't recall, but he represented himself to be from
the Health Department or commission, some form. He said to me, he said, "There
has been a homicide here, you won't be able to remove the body. We will have to
take it down there to the mortuary and have an autopsy." I said, "No, we are
not." And he said, "We have a law here whereby you have to comply with
it."
With that Dr. Burkley walked in, and I said Doctor, this man is from
some health unit in town. He tells me we can't remove this body." The Doctor
became a little enraged; he said, "We are removing it." He said, "This is the
President of the United States and there should be some consideration in an
event like this." And I told this gentleman, I said, "You are going to have to
come up with something a little stronger than you to give me the law that this
body can't be removed."
So, he frantically called everybody he could think of
and he hasn't got an answer; nobody is home. Shortly he leaves this little room
and it seems like a few minutes he is back and he has another gentleman with
him, and he said, "This is"--the name escapes me he said, "He is a judge here in
Dallas," and he said, "He will tell you whether you can remove this body or
not." I said, "It doesn't make any difference. We are going to move it," and I
said, "Judge, do you know who I am?"
And he said, "Yes," and I said, "There
must be something in your thinking here that we don't have to go through this
agony; the family doesn't have to go through this. We will take care of the
matter when we get back to Washington." The poor man looked at me and he said,
"I know who you are," and he said, "I can't help you out." I said. "All right,
sir." But then I happened to look to the right and I can see the casket coming
on rollers, and I just left the room and let it out through the emergency
entrance and we got to the ambulance and put it in, shut the door after Mrs.
Kennedy and General McHugh and Clinton Hill in the rear part of this
ambulance.
I am looking around for Mr. Greer and I don't spot him directly
because I want to get out of here in a hurry, and I recognize Agent Berger and I
said, "Berger, you get in the front seat and drive and, Mr. Stout, you get in
the middle and I will get on this side," and as we are leaving--Mr. Lawson, I
should say, was in a police car that led us away from Parkland Memorial
Hospital. As we are leaving a gentleman taps on the driver's window and they
roll it down and he says, "I will meet you at the mortuary." "Yes, sir." We went
to the airport, gentlemen.
With regard to Tippit... you may of course speculate away... at some point though you might want to look at the evidence.. the EVIDENCE related to Tippit is anything BUT conclusive that Oswald, or his police .38 special were even involved.
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[TD="class: xl67, width: 341, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]Might can give you some additional information. I got an eye-ball witness to the get-away man. That suspect in this shooting is a white male, twenty-seven, five feet eleven, a hundred sixty-five, black wavy hair, fair complected, wearing a light grey Eisenhower-type jacket, dark trousers and a white shirt, and (. . . ?). Last seen running on the north side of the street from Patton, on Jefferson, on East Jefferson. And he was apparently armed with a 32 dark-finish automatic pistol which he had in his right hand.
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 341, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]The shells at the scene indicate that the suspect is armed with an automatic 38, rather than a pistol.
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The murder occurs at 1:06, Bowley sees a dead Tippit at 1:10. Oswald was in his room at 1-1:03pm and next seen at the Theater by Burroughs before 1:15.
Markham can't be any more of a leadable witness...
Mr. BALL. Did a police officer say anything to you before you went in there, to tell you--
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. That he thought "We had the right man," or something of that sort? Anything like that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. No statement like that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did anybody tell you that the man you were looking for would be in a certain position in the lineup, or anything like that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Now when you went into the room you looked these people over, these four men?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You did not? Did you see anybody--I have asked you that question before did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. From their face, no.
Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men.
Mr. BALL. No one of the four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No one of them.
Mr. BALL. No one of all four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there a number two man in there?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.
Mr. BALL. Well, I thought you just told me that you hadn't--
Mrs. MARKHAM. I thought you wanted me to describe their clothing
Mr. BALL. And you were walking toward Jefferson?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Tenth Street runs the same direction as Jefferson, doesn't it?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. It runs in a generally east and west direction?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And Patton runs north and south?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir; up and down this way.
Mr. BALL. So you were walking south toward Jefferson?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You think it was a little after 1?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I wouldn't be afraid to bet it wasn't 6 or 7 minutes after 1.
Mr. BALL. You know what time you usually get your bus, don't you?
Mrs. MARKHAM. 1:15.
Mr. BALL. So it was before 1:15?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, it was.
This occurs just at 6:55pm -
At 7:17 according to Siebert, O'Neill, and Greer MEET KELLERMAN AT THE MORGUE'S ENTRANCE, these four men unload the BRONZE casket from the Navy ambulance with a transport on wheels
and leave it in the morgue's anteroom... The FBI agents DO NOT see the body at this time...
At 8pm the Joint Casket Bearer Team OFFICIALLY takes this SAME casket back into the Morgue... Humes claims the autopsy begins at 8:15....
Dennis David and an xray tech actually see the navy ambulance out front after unloading a shipping casket and WHILE processing JFK's xrays
It is thought that KELLERMAN orchestrated the return of JFK to the LARGE casket for the official "entry" and was orchestrating most of the SS activities...
(was it not Kellerman who has the argument with Rose at Parkland?)
Mr. KELLERMAN. This I can't truly answer. However, I should say that, as for the
casket being brought into the hospital, another gentleman came into this little
doctor's room, his name I don't recall, but he represented himself to be from
the Health Department or commission, some form. He said to me, he said, "There
has been a homicide here, you won't be able to remove the body. We will have to
take it down there to the mortuary and have an autopsy." I said, "No, we are
not." And he said, "We have a law here whereby you have to comply with
it."
With that Dr. Burkley walked in, and I said Doctor, this man is from
some health unit in town. He tells me we can't remove this body." The Doctor
became a little enraged; he said, "We are removing it." He said, "This is the
President of the United States and there should be some consideration in an
event like this." And I told this gentleman, I said, "You are going to have to
come up with something a little stronger than you to give me the law that this
body can't be removed."
So, he frantically called everybody he could think of
and he hasn't got an answer; nobody is home. Shortly he leaves this little room
and it seems like a few minutes he is back and he has another gentleman with
him, and he said, "This is"--the name escapes me he said, "He is a judge here in
Dallas," and he said, "He will tell you whether you can remove this body or
not." I said, "It doesn't make any difference. We are going to move it," and I
said, "Judge, do you know who I am?"
And he said, "Yes," and I said, "There
must be something in your thinking here that we don't have to go through this
agony; the family doesn't have to go through this. We will take care of the
matter when we get back to Washington." The poor man looked at me and he said,
"I know who you are," and he said, "I can't help you out." I said. "All right,
sir." But then I happened to look to the right and I can see the casket coming
on rollers, and I just left the room and let it out through the emergency
entrance and we got to the ambulance and put it in, shut the door after Mrs.
Kennedy and General McHugh and Clinton Hill in the rear part of this
ambulance.
I am looking around for Mr. Greer and I don't spot him directly
because I want to get out of here in a hurry, and I recognize Agent Berger and I
said, "Berger, you get in the front seat and drive and, Mr. Stout, you get in
the middle and I will get on this side," and as we are leaving--Mr. Lawson, I
should say, was in a police car that led us away from Parkland Memorial
Hospital. As we are leaving a gentleman taps on the driver's window and they
roll it down and he says, "I will meet you at the mortuary." "Yes, sir." We went
to the airport, gentlemen.
With regard to Tippit... you may of course speculate away... at some point though you might want to look at the evidence.. the EVIDENCE related to Tippit is anything BUT conclusive that Oswald, or his police .38 special were even involved.
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]221 (Ptm. H.W. Summers)
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[TD="class: xl67, width: 341, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]Might can give you some additional information. I got an eye-ball witness to the get-away man. That suspect in this shooting is a white male, twenty-seven, five feet eleven, a hundred sixty-five, black wavy hair, fair complected, wearing a light grey Eisenhower-type jacket, dark trousers and a white shirt, and (. . . ?). Last seen running on the north side of the street from Patton, on Jefferson, on East Jefferson. And he was apparently armed with a 32 dark-finish automatic pistol which he had in his right hand.
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[TD="class: xl65, width: 189, bgcolor: transparent"]550/2 (Sgt. G.L. Hill)
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[TD="class: xl68, width: 341, bgcolor: #FFCC99"]The shells at the scene indicate that the suspect is armed with an automatic 38, rather than a pistol.
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The murder occurs at 1:06, Bowley sees a dead Tippit at 1:10. Oswald was in his room at 1-1:03pm and next seen at the Theater by Burroughs before 1:15.
Markham can't be any more of a leadable witness...
Mr. BALL. Did a police officer say anything to you before you went in there, to tell you--
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. That he thought "We had the right man," or something of that sort? Anything like that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. No statement like that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did anybody tell you that the man you were looking for would be in a certain position in the lineup, or anything like that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Now when you went into the room you looked these people over, these four men?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You did not? Did you see anybody--I have asked you that question before did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. From their face, no.
Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men.
Mr. BALL. No one of the four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No one of them.
Mr. BALL. No one of all four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there a number two man in there?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.
Mr. BALL. Well, I thought you just told me that you hadn't--
Mrs. MARKHAM. I thought you wanted me to describe their clothing
Mr. BALL. And you were walking toward Jefferson?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Tenth Street runs the same direction as Jefferson, doesn't it?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. It runs in a generally east and west direction?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And Patton runs north and south?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir; up and down this way.
Mr. BALL. So you were walking south toward Jefferson?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You think it was a little after 1?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I wouldn't be afraid to bet it wasn't 6 or 7 minutes after 1.
Mr. BALL. You know what time you usually get your bus, don't you?
Mrs. MARKHAM. 1:15.
Mr. BALL. So it was before 1:15?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, it was.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter