The President's back wound.

[David Josephs]

Sorry Gordon....

the 45 degrees had to do with what Humes said as he stuck his pinkie in the hole... a bullet entering and then coursing downward (yaw) is not uncommon at all... I do not believe Humes was relating the shooting angle to 45-60 degrees but how the shallow wound felt to him... if he could feel the end of the wound, yet they did not bother to record the removal of a bullet of fragment from that spot... it was either removed earlier or really did fall out of JFK duing cardiac massage and was the pointed bullet Nurse Bell picks up.

As to how a bullet stops in the body... it is all based upon the speed of the bullet. There are rifles that will fire rounds at low-velocity such as .22 LR which leaves the muzzle at 1150fps and slows to 975 at 100 yards.
The bullet Audrey Bell picked up was a pointed nose, very small bullet which can easily explain what caused the back wound.

Finally, here is a FMJ chart on fragmentation at different speeds.... at less than 1500fps (more like 1000fps) we should see no fragmentation and a very shallow wound... (and please realize that the MC, at less than 2000fps should not, COULD NOT have created a trail of minute particles as seen in the xrays... a different type of bullet from the front would have left that trail...

DJ

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This is the first I've heard Audrey Bell picked up a pointed nose bullet. I thought that was Darrel Tomlinson. Ms. Bell I believe signed over the Connolly wrist fragments to the two Feds.We don't know who the nurse was who picked up the Connolly thigh bullet or what it looked like. Now why a professional sniper would choose to use a low velocity bullet is a head scratcher for me. And no other bullet we know of during the shooting, behaved like a 1000fps type round. Doesn't make any sense to me.

It is possible I got the nurses mixed up since the evidence I can find does not name the nurse.... :

7) LBJ Library document-Memorandum to File-According to Chief
James J. Rowley, CE399 "was found amongst the clothes on one of
the stretchers." If that wasn't enough, Governor Connally
stated in his autobiography called "In History's Shadow"," But
the most curious discovery of all took place when they rolled me
off the stretcher, and onto the examining table. A metal object
fell onto the floor, with a click no louder than a wedding band.
The nurse picked it up and slipped it into her pocket. It was
the BULLET FROM MY BODY, the one that passed through my back,
chest, and wrist, and worked itself loose from my thigh"
(emphasis added-p.18; "The Investigator" Feb-May 1994).
Corroborating Connally's memory, from the 11/21/93 Dallas Morning
News interview with Henry Wade:" I also went out to see
Connally, but he was in the operating room(note the time frame).
Some nurse had a bullet in her hand, and said this was on the
gurney that Connally was on...I told her to give it to the police,
which she said she would. I assume that's the pristine bullet"


Tomlinson says he picked up a bullet... NOT that he got it from a nurse

Mr. SPECTER. Now, do you recollect what the FBI man asked you about?
Mr. TOMLINSON. Just about where I found the bullet.



I have found that asking WHY questions with an expectation of understanding never seems to work.

Why shoot from the front when the patsy is at the back?
Why shoot a low velocity rifle?

Cause they did Gordon....

And since the evidence related to the ballistics and the body is so unreliable, to say there were no other 1000fps bullets fired that day is an impossiblity.

Maybe the manhole gouge was caused by a 22... seems to have come from the same area as the backwound....
or the Tague/curb shot..
or the shot thru the front window..

There are a lot of puzzle pieces still missing Gordon... way too many to declare what the picture actually looks like, imo.
DJ

Yeah you got your nurses mixed up. The bullet Tomlinson found was a pointed nosed hunting type bullet. The emergency room nurse who picked up the Connolly thigh bullet has never been identified. That bullet was given to a sate policeman who supposedly handed it over to the Dallas Police. Check out Bob Harris' article on the three magic bullets at CTK. As to the velocity, we know from the head fragments, at least one high velocity rifle was used. We also know from Connolly's wounds that a low velocity weapon was not used in that instance. Also the bullet that wounded Tague would not have been low velocity. Assuming these people were professional shooters the only reason for low velocity weapons would be if they were shooting close rather than from a distance. It makes no sense that the reason for a shallow back wound would be the result of a low velocity weapon. What were the possible points of origin? The TSBD, Daltex, or the Records Building. No one would use a low velocity weapon firing from those positions. As to the 45 degree angle, I believe Humes also used a probe on the wound as well as his finger. And others saw the probe going in at a steep angle. Bullets can behave in unpredictable ways, but if it strikes the presidents back at a downward angle it is likely to turn inward, rather than downward, because the top side of the bullet hits first while the underside continues to travel at it's initial velocity. Why did they shoot from the front if they were trying to frame a patsy? Because their prime objective was to insure that the president would be killed; they had to have frontal shooters for that. I have often wondered whether it really mattered to them whether the evidence pointed to single shooter or not. As long as Oswald could be shown to be one of the shooters and his connections to Castro established, it wouldn't really matter to the plan that he had accomplices.

Again Gordon... I don't think that "fragments" needs to lead to a very high velocity shot as opposed to a bullet designed to break apart. Even if the FMJ bullet hits at 3000fps, which it didn't, there are no "dust-sized particles" created as we see in the xrays.

I make no assumptions here Gordon, you are. Concluding the Tague bullet "would not be low velocity" requires something to support that... and I see nothing that does so.
Your ASSUMPTIONS about professional shooters is also dubious... ANGRY CUBAN SHOOTERS? maybe... the only "pro" imo was the man shooting from the front right.

"It makes no sense" or "No one would use..." are yet others statement I try to stay away from as the CONTEXT of the statement cannot be understood. In many iterations of the "plan" what seems not to make sense fits perfectly well.

One should remember that the original plan was to implicate Oswald in a Communist Conspiracy (just read the Alvarado/Duran reports to see what the CIA was setting Oswald up for) so they could invade Cuba with popular support.
(Peter Dale Scott Phase 1) and that when this option was quickly removed from consideration... Phase 2 - the Lone Nut. and magically the "commie" and Conspirator becomes the most unconnected Lone Nut Assassin ever. (Alvarado is discredited and sent safely to Nicaragua... Duran's stories are fully discredited.... CIA never actually explains how Oswald - who supposedly goes to Mexico trying arrange passage thru Cuba to Russia - magically becomes a LONE NUT...

IF he was in Mexico then he was part of a conspiracy with payments and escape routes...
IF he was not in Mexico... why did the CIA claim he wasandr believe Alvarado and Duran?

From the moment the limo goes under the overpass the Cover-up and Conspiracy was in full swing.
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What you might want to ask youself... with all the films/cameras/photos "confiscated" by the FBI/SS virtually immediately with some disappearing forever...
Why do you suppose they dealt with Zapruder with kid gloves? They could have very easily said this was assassiantion evidence and taken it from him...
By allowing the film to become THE account of the assassiantion, the altered final version becomes accepted without question.

Too bad they didn't treat Beverly Oliver or Gordon Arnold's images with such kindness...