27-10-2008, 06:00 AM
Charles Drago Wrote:John,
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The date of the Dulles quote is July 9, 1964. The setting was a WC commissioners meeting. If memory serves, the particulars may be found in Lane's Plausible Denial, which I'll access tomorrow in my library (where out-of-town guests are currently sleeping on the sofa bed).
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Charlie
Thank you, Charlie, for your kind words.
Lane uses the quote on page 53 of the hardcover edition of Plausible Denial, but he provides no citation for it, and that is what I am after -- finding out where this statement so often attributed to Dulles originated.
After asking this same question elsewhere, I was given first the July 9, 1964 date, and then a September 6, 1964 date -- the latter from a supposed "internal memo," the former from who knows where.
July 9 suggests a possible executive session. The only source for those sessions I know of is Lifton's "Document Addendum to the Warren Report," most of which is also on a JFK Lancer CD-ROM. But, there is no July 9 session on either of those.
The trouble, as I see it, is that this statement has been used often -- is there anyone reading this who HASN'T heard it? -- but where does it come from? I fear it is bordering on urban myth. It doesn't appear to be in the 26 volumes, it doesn't appear to be in the HSCA stuff, and so on. It has to have come from somewhere. But where?
By the way, I have enormous respect for Mark Lane. But I regret to see that on that same page 53 of Plausible Denial, he mis-quotes the notorious Earl Warren "not in your lifetime" remark, which in the New York Times of Feb. 5, 1964 (p. 19) is: "Yes, there will come a time. But it might not be in your lifetime."
Not that the NYT is infallible!
John