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The lacunae in my old school history books
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Malcolm Pryce Wrote:I wonder if people here have opinions or thoughts on a phenomenon that has intrigued me of late, namely the Great Conjuring Trick played by the ruling elites on the people of the West at the end of the Second World War. Picture the scene. Many men and women in Britain in 1945 knew personally soldiers who had been tortured by the Japanese or suffered dreadful privation at their hands. This inspired a hatred so deep and visceral that I still know people today who haven't forgiven. The Germans were perhaps not so viscerally hated but everyone had seen the Pathe newsreels of the Concentration camps, and, of course, had witnessed the Blitz. Set alongside these two nations were the Russians, the brave Ivans who fought like lions to defeat the Nazi war machine and suffered terrible losses in the process. They were the ones who fought alongside the Allies, shoulder to shoulder. So that was the scenario. And then what happened? Somehow the shadowy cabal told the peoples of the West that the Ivans were now our enemies and our new friends were the Japanese and Germans whose shattered economies it was now our duty to rebuild. How on earth did they pull that off? Didn't anyone express bafflement? It seems to me from this historical vantage point that the trick had been completed by the beginning of the 50s. And no one, as far as I'm aware, ever talks about it. I first became aware of this when reading Fletcher Prouty's account of standing at the dockside in Okinawa in 1945 when a huge consignment of War materiel from the U.S. was being returned as no longer needed. But, according to Prouty, it wasn't being returned to sender, it was being shipped to a place most people hadn't even heard of, Vietnam. The point being that the Cold War was being manufactured even before the Second World War had ended. Anyone have any thoughts on this, or recommendations for further reading? My old school history books are strangely silent on this topic.

It always intrigued me too. It was a clever sleight of hands and I don't think everyone bought into it. There remained a distrust of Germany for a very long time it seems to me - and even today this remains in the background, to be brought out by the Sunday Mirror whenever Frau Merkel annoys the tabloid mentality types.

On Prouty I seem to remember that the war surplus was divided into two piles, one pile went to Korea and the other to French Indochina. And my distant reading of something Ho Chi Mihn said has remained with me. Back in the 1950's he wrote to the then incumbent President expressing his desire to make Vietnam adopt a democratic system of government along US lines - i.e., a Constitutional style of government. But he feelers were rejected.

My own assumption here is that this rejection was because the US had adopted the recommendations of the War & Peace Studies Group of the Council on Foreign Relations that had set out long term geopolitical and business aims for post WWII. When I last tried checking the entire study was still confidential (that was less than 10 years ago btw). What little is known is contained in Laurence H. Shoup, William Minter (1977) I[URL="http://goodtimesweb.org/overseas-war/0595324266_ImperialBrain.pdf"]mperial Brain Trust: The Council on Foreign Relations and United States Foreign Policy.

[/URL]The Chapter on page 117 of the linked pdf file headed "Shaping a New World Order: The Council's Blueprint for World Hegemony, 1939-1975" and it's ambitions for the so called "GRand Area" speaks absolute volumes.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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The lacunae in my old school history books - by David Guyatt - 31-05-2013, 09:23 AM

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