02-12-2013, 11:28 PM
Donald Manning Wrote:Earl Rose isn't given the respect due to him in the mainstream media, so this really is for him and his memory and since most realise what a mistake it was to remove the body I'm just pointing out the lack of respect he get's from TV's "historians".
No respect.
Anita,
the JP was still on his way to Parkland and Rose did in fact stop the body from being removed until he got there. When he arrived, Ward being rather inexperienced just did not have the clought to handle the situation but what he should have told the Whitehouse crowd was to leave the body right where it was.Correct?
By all accounts the Ward did just that, with a little encouragement from Rose he told them all to wait till he made some calls.
He called DA Wade, Wade after consulting Burkley and Curry said let them go.
That's when Rose stepped aside. Threats of violence did not impress him.
Legend.
Regarding LBJ.
As mastermind?
That's not what I said or believe, even when I looked at it through Lifton's eyes years ago, LBJ was only considered a tool, I never saw him as the "Brains" of the thing and I don't think David did either. Let me get this straight though, if they continue to wash over what Rose tried to do and how it would have been better for all if he had succeeded then yes I'll jump on that wagon asap rather than listen to the media's current ignorant chorus.
I said above that LBJ gave the order, for selfish reasons, that's what history records fwiw.
Johnson said he wasn't leaving without Jackie(because it would have made him look bad).
I'd enjoy going over that aspect of the case.
I have not conducted a lot of research into the events that transpired at Parkland. What I posted is from my research of Texas law, the history of the justice of the peace and the medical examiner system for that time period for my book. I can say this, the Justice of the Peace was an elected position and the individual was not required to have legal training. The JP is the lowest rung on the judiciary ladder in Texas. Just imagine what Ward would have faced that day, the chaos, the confusion, the secret service and other people that were involved. And you are right about his not having the necessary clout to have stopped the secret service. Yes, he should have told them to not remove the body but he had no way of enforcing that edict. It would have taken a lot more than what Ward or Rose could bring to the table. You have to give credit to Dr. Rose for the position he took in trying to stop the removal of Kennedy's body knowing he did not have any legal authority. It is my personal opinion the information would be a lot different today if Rose had been allowed to conduct the autopsy.
Judge Pierce McBride ordered the autopsy, signed the death certificate and inquest hearing document for Oswald. Judge W. E. Richburg did the same for Ruby. Judge Joe Brown did the same for Tippit. All three judges were a justice of the peace in Dallas County in 1963. Rose conducted the autopsy for Oswald, Ruby and Tippit. An interesting side note, is that Ward did conduct an inquest and signed the inquest hearing document and the death certificate for Kennedy on Dec 6, 1963. I found that extremely interesting as his primary piece of evidence, ie: Kennedy's body had been removed and he did not have an autopsy report unless he was provided one from the doctors that did conduct the autopsy.