15-01-2014, 03:23 PM
Marc Ellis Wrote:Tracy Riddle Wrote:Harriman is impossible to classify as "right wing" or "left wing." He is an elite chameleon figure who could go either way. He was a Democrat, and actually considered to be from the "liberal" wing of the party. Originally a hardliner on the Soviets, he later became friendlier towards them. On Vietnam he appears at different times to be both a hawk and a dove.
He was one of the so-called Wise Men (there's a very good book by that title):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wise_Men_(book)
I basically agree w/Tracy Riddle's description of him.
Harriman was truly a limousine Liberal. He was born into the Harriman railroad fortune.
He was a Republican turned Democrat. He was wishywashy on a lot of issues.
I don't know why Vietnam would have been so important to him that he would personally order
Diem whacked. So I am skeptical about his role in the DIEM assassination.
But I certainly could be proven wrong. It doesn't make sense based on what I know.
He was ambassador to the Soviet Union during WWII. What was his tenure like?
He doesn't seem to be an uber-hawk in that video clip.
JFK seemed to trust him very much - perhaps wrongly.
His widow was appointed Ambassador to France by Clinton.
Personally, I don't think he was a member of the cabal against JFK.
Tracy Riddle's Douglass quote is something I'll want to dig into further.
JFK gave Harriman virtually carte Blanche on Vietnam. But why would Harriman
do that? What was in it for him? Was he heavily invested in Brown & Root?
Like I said, I could be proven wrong. But something doesn't add up here.
it would be very helpful to compare the two telegraphs, side-by-side.
That would answer the question.
Good questions \ concerns all of them.
Obviously I don't have too many of the answers, or I would not have started this thread.
RE: Brown & Root question of Harriman's investment ...
by 1962 B&R was actually purchased and owned by Halliburton -- at the time the rival or Harriman's Dressier Industries.
However, some 30 years later, the two would merge!
On Dressier Industries, however:
" Prescott Sheldon Bush (May 15, 1895, Columbus, Ohio October 8, 1972, New York City) was a U.S. Senator from Connecticut and a Wall Street executive banker with Brown Brothers Harriman. His son, George H. W. Bush, and grandson George W. Bush would both later become U.S. presidents. His father was Samuel Prescott Bush and his mother was Flora Sheldon.
He entered business in the organization of George Herbert Walker and Averell Harriman and became an officer in their investment banking firm, W. A. Harriman and Company in 1926. When it merged with Brown Brothers Harriman in 1931, he became a partner in the new firm of Brown Brothers Harriman. Bush called it "my good fortune" to work with close friends, including Yale classmates (and members of the Skull and Bones) E. Roland Harriman, Knight Woolley, and Ellery James, as well as Robert A. Lovett and Thomas McCance.
As a managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, he sat on several corporate boards, including the following:
Dresser Industries. An oil drilling equipment supply company. in 1928 W.A. Harriman and Company paid $4,000,000 for Dresser's corporate stock, and sold securities against the company. In 1929 Bush refinanced Dresser "so that we retained a substantial measure of control." In 1930, E. Roland Harriman and Bush became members of the board (Bush served until 1952), and installed their Yale classmate Henry Neil Mallon as chairman. Mallon and Bush were lifelong friends. (In 1948, Mallon hired George H.W. Bush to work at Dresser and George H.W. Bush named one of his sons, Neil Mallon Bush, after Mallon). In September 1998, Dresser merged with Halliburton and is now known as Halliburton Company. "
- source: http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/53362/d...ush-family