07-07-2009, 03:56 PM
I originally intended this as a reply to Magda's post #10 on the 7/7 thread. However, it turned into something of a rant encompassing things I've been meaning to put in a Lounge-type discussion along the lines of
"It's all very well for us to constantly belly-ache about this 'Deep-Politics' stuff, but what can any individual or group do about it that has more than a snowball's chance in Hell of any worthwhile effect?"
Something like that. So here goes:
My own journey of inquiry and opinion over 7/7 has paralleled that of 9/11 and exposed a multitude of heretical and carefully hidden truths about Western 'Civilisation'. I started out with quite orthodox views. 9/11 occurred just after I had sold my business to a much larger company. I was at the height of my business career and earning potential but very VERY weary of it all and intent on taking early retirement. Any and everyone in such circumstances, whether they are concious of it or not, of necessity is likely to have pretty orthodox views. They are a 'sine qua non' of even the most modest 'success' within 'the system'. The eight years since 9/11 have been a time of startling and very uncomfortable awakening from the constraints of that orthodoxy for me. I'm not a 'mad conspiracy theorist' or any of the other scathing pejoratives employed by the guardians of 'orthodoxy' and their credulous dupes, to demonise and thus marginalise those deemed a possible threat to it. I am simply a healthily sceptical, reasonably intelligent individual who no longer needs to bow and scrape to ANYONE to feed and clothe my family. Neither do I give a fig for the trappings of Rank, Power, Privilege, Position or Place (a hangover from those old hippy days I guess
).
I could go on but don't wish to bore. Suffice to say that careful, honest inquiry has led me to conclude that 9/11 and 7/7 were BOTH 'steered operations' - to use the description of former German Minister Andreas Von Buelow. Steered by the Deep State structures that Webster Tarpley, Peter Dale Scott, Ola Tunander, John McMurtry and others have begun to uncover so convincingly - a sinister amalgam of Intelligence/Security Services and the agendas of super-wealthy 'Old Money' dynasties wielded largely through secret Masonic/Occult type fraternities and organisations. From what I have found, I would place the strength of my conclusions as going beyond the UK civil action 'balance of probability' to fully satisfying the criminal standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt'.
Unless I am feeling particularly mischievous, I tend to refrain from involvement in discussion of these things in 'polite company' though. I have learned that it only serves to isolate me further. But just let some establishment bore start one of those rah rah patriot/loyalist-type rants in my presence and like as not he'll be left wondering what the hell hit him, because neither am I inclined to suffer establishment sycophants gladly or in silence.
I'd be interested to hear others views on activities and ways of coping with all this and what, in an age of vast globalised nuclear, biological and propaganda/surveillance/security weaponry available to 'The State' and the 'Deep State' arbiters of their deployment and use, are deeply, DEEPLY unsettling facts.
Or maybe ignorance really is bliss
tupido2:
"It's all very well for us to constantly belly-ache about this 'Deep-Politics' stuff, but what can any individual or group do about it that has more than a snowball's chance in Hell of any worthwhile effect?"
Something like that. So here goes:
My own journey of inquiry and opinion over 7/7 has paralleled that of 9/11 and exposed a multitude of heretical and carefully hidden truths about Western 'Civilisation'. I started out with quite orthodox views. 9/11 occurred just after I had sold my business to a much larger company. I was at the height of my business career and earning potential but very VERY weary of it all and intent on taking early retirement. Any and everyone in such circumstances, whether they are concious of it or not, of necessity is likely to have pretty orthodox views. They are a 'sine qua non' of even the most modest 'success' within 'the system'. The eight years since 9/11 have been a time of startling and very uncomfortable awakening from the constraints of that orthodoxy for me. I'm not a 'mad conspiracy theorist' or any of the other scathing pejoratives employed by the guardians of 'orthodoxy' and their credulous dupes, to demonise and thus marginalise those deemed a possible threat to it. I am simply a healthily sceptical, reasonably intelligent individual who no longer needs to bow and scrape to ANYONE to feed and clothe my family. Neither do I give a fig for the trappings of Rank, Power, Privilege, Position or Place (a hangover from those old hippy days I guess
). I could go on but don't wish to bore. Suffice to say that careful, honest inquiry has led me to conclude that 9/11 and 7/7 were BOTH 'steered operations' - to use the description of former German Minister Andreas Von Buelow. Steered by the Deep State structures that Webster Tarpley, Peter Dale Scott, Ola Tunander, John McMurtry and others have begun to uncover so convincingly - a sinister amalgam of Intelligence/Security Services and the agendas of super-wealthy 'Old Money' dynasties wielded largely through secret Masonic/Occult type fraternities and organisations. From what I have found, I would place the strength of my conclusions as going beyond the UK civil action 'balance of probability' to fully satisfying the criminal standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt'.
Unless I am feeling particularly mischievous, I tend to refrain from involvement in discussion of these things in 'polite company' though. I have learned that it only serves to isolate me further. But just let some establishment bore start one of those rah rah patriot/loyalist-type rants in my presence and like as not he'll be left wondering what the hell hit him, because neither am I inclined to suffer establishment sycophants gladly or in silence.
I'd be interested to hear others views on activities and ways of coping with all this and what, in an age of vast globalised nuclear, biological and propaganda/surveillance/security weaponry available to 'The State' and the 'Deep State' arbiters of their deployment and use, are deeply, DEEPLY unsettling facts.
Or maybe ignorance really is bliss
tupido2:
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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