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Detailed discussion and analysis of the H&L evidence
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Duncan Pillans Wrote:For me this H&L business is one of the more interesting aspects of the JFK assassination conspiracy, along with the Secret Service's non-performance on that infamous day.

My apologies if my questions below are already answered elsewhere.


  1. How did the people running project Oswald know that Lee and Harvey's faces would remain so similar when they matured?

People's faces can change from childhood to adulthood. An example is my nephew, now 24. It was only, perhaps, in the last 5 years that he started to look like his father in the face. Before that he never did resemble his dad except his height. The degree to which this happens varies from person to person. Maybe they thought it was worth the gamble nothing to lose in trying.


  1. Did Lee's brothers Robert and John Pic know of the project? Or were they just friends with Harvey?

I've seen a photo of what is claimed to be Robert and John Pic along with either Lee or Harvey and Marina sitting on a sofa in someone's living room. The website is Spartacus Educational. Moreover, in the Harvey and Lee' article, it is claimed that Robert not only took the Bronx Zoo photo of Harvey in 1953 but three years later actually lived with him. At the funeral of Harvey there is a photo of what is claimed to be a Richard but at the moment I am unsure who this Robert is the server is down. Maybe it is another Richard.

If they were just friends, I wonder what Robert and John Pic thought of Harvey being so similar to their brother, as well as the fact that Harvey's mother had the same name as their own both first and last names? That is if they knew of her first name.


Regarding the second #1 - We feel that Robert not only knew but was part of the plan... John is a bit more trouble as he identifies LEE from HARVEY at every turn and in turn creates conflicts with Robert's timeline.

I highly suggest you read John and Robert's testimonies for the WCR.... Robert completely forgets about his visit in 1952 that happened according to John... while the Bronx zoo photo is definitely HARVEY (the inset if of LEE in 6th grade, 5'4" 115lb and the leader of his class and friends. It has been offered that Robert impersonated LEE as LEE had gotten so big so young...

Cheers - Hope this helps a little.
DJ

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Regarding the first #1 - We can only speculate...

A thought that occurred to me was that the entire charade was created looking backward in time when LEE and HARVEY already looked somewhat alike, starting in 1957... yet we know that there were many activities based on connecting LEE and HARVEY starting in 1952 in NYC, so there had to be some forward thinking being done as well (it just did not matter whether the boys grew up looking alike as they would never be seen together - the idea was to create a "proveable" past for the spy to be.)

We do not have any photos of LEE after 1959, and what we do have of that last photo, I did this comparison to HARVEY - I also find that their body posture was very different as well:
But you do raise one of the $64K questions... they do look eerily alike...

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