Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live

[Peter Lemkin]

I'm sure all here know that the Ukrainian Military is making a push now to get a hold of the area near and including the crash site, despite an agreed upon 40km non-engagement zone around it. This is very ominous - and a break from the agreement with the separatist militia. Meanwhile the 'Western' governments are making the most insane suggestions about sending an international military force to secure the crash area. Does someone have something to hide? While all are saying or hinting that their motives are pure and they only want to 'secure' the crash site so that a 'real' investigation can begin, the recent fighting in the area caused the inspectors to NOT deploy to the area yesterday and most likely for the foreseeable future. The Ukrainian military is one of the suspects [as are the separatists] in the shoot-down. The separatists have given access, and while they did disturb a few items, there is no reliable evidence of major tampering with the evidence on the ground. A change of the status quo would only delay and/or destroy more of the evidence, as the Ukrainian 'regulars' are bombing in the area, among other activities. One has to speculate what their real motives are in this endeavor!....