Football is Fixed

[Malcolm John]

It makes me think you're not a football fan to be honest, there has never been any convictions for match fixing in the EPL, and no evidence it has ever gone on, and yes the FA do monitor betting patterns across the whole globe any bet placed on EPL games included anywhere it is placed. Its just a lazy accusation, and btw it would be much easier to fix an election which you are holding (the Electoral Commission which is a Westminster body held the Scottish referendum) than it would a top level football game.

You mention the SPL, totally different, may have gone on its not impossible, but if you want to say the EPL is guilty of match fixing you'll really need to provide even one tiny shred of evidence to have the same amount of credibility. I am a football nut, and, in my opinion, to suggest even one game in the history of the EPL has ever been fixed is laughable nonsense from people who just don't have a clue what they're talking about.


Bruce Grobelaar and others were convicted but that was before the EPL, certainly in recent history its basically impossible that that has ever gone on, are games in the NFL fixed? Thats what you're talking about maginified a thousand times, people in 200 countries watch the EPL the srutiny it is under is unrivalled anywhere in sport across the whole world, its just not plausible to say match fixing goes on without providing any evidence.

And I am complimenting England here so how is my attitude on the other thread flowing through, if anything yours is.

Malcolm, I can't make you think something is possible when you believe it can't be - or wish to, in fact. This forum is all about opening eyes and un-hindering minds and seeing reality as it is - not as it is portrayed in school, university or the media. All these posture to illusions.

In this and other threads there is a lot of information that points to considerable corruption, not least the gaming insider essays at Football is Fixed blog.

Corruption extends to match fixing in the world cup and fixing who wins the world cup franchise (big, big money involved -just like the Olympic Games). Check out the FIFA thread HERE. A former FA chairman, Lord Triesman, told the press that Russia and Spain had a secret deal; Russia would get the next world cup, Spain would win the last one via bribing of match officials by Russia. He had to resign following a severe press beating for breaking the omertà of big crooked money. But he was right wasn't he. Spain won the 2010 world cup and Russia gets the next one (2018).

So, if the world cup is as corrupt as it clearly is, and what with Garcia's recent report shenanigans on FIFA - do you really still believe in the stiff upper lip British back-slapping honesty and sportsmanship fairy tale that the PL is clean? The enormity of the money involved is exactly why it is corrupt.

I find it hard to accept that scrutiny by the FA, EUFA or FIFA is anything other than lamentable.

Please explain how the FA monitor eastern (read mostly Singaporean) dark pools betting? And if they did why would they tell us if something was amiss?

As for no evidence in the EPL match fixing this is clearly not the case as detailed in the Football is Fixed bloodspot and simple observation of PGMOL decisions in big matches -- not to mention the former MU manager Sir Alex Ferguson's "5 minutes" that he was always awarded if they were still losing or drawing at 90 minutes. It became a joke in the media didn't it.

Meanwhile, newspaper article stories have, in the past, just gone to sleep when there is a hint of impropriety involved in the PL. A few years ago this happened in regard to money laundering and it was this, really, that prompted me to get this folder up and running.

Italy just a few years ago had a number of top clubs punished for match fixing by bribing officials. This happened in 2006 (the enormous Calcipoli affair -- Lazio, Florentina, Juventus, Regina, with Milan later acquitted and three of those four relegated to a lower league), and again in 2012.

Yes, I accept that charges are never brought or the media do not report (or minimally report) EPL criminality. That, however, doesn't mean the game is clean. It's absurd to think it is. You are happy to believe these institutions are fine, upstanding and honest. I find that view naive. Sorry.

And to disappoint you I am a big fan - I'm off to the Emirates for the Gunners game this Wednesday evening with my grandson. I enjoy football, but I'm a realist.

And so indeed is Jan, whom you referenced in your first post in this thread. He supports Spurs.

You have moved the goalposts, we were talking about games being fixed in the EPL, now you are talking about WC bidding etc, totally unrelated issue. Personally I find your desperation to believe they have naive especially when there have never been any cases of proven match fixing in the entire history of the EPL.

If you want to make lazy accusations you need to provide evidence, if this forum is about opening people's eyes you can't do that by just saying it is cause I said so thats not good enough. And if you are paying good money to take your grandson to a game you think might be fixed I don't think its me who is naive.

There is no match fixing whatsoever in the EPL, none at all, there never has been, and probably never will. Football is rife with match fixing look at Serie A for example, but the EPL has so far remained unaffected as it exists in a spotlight that simply wouldn't allow it and would be extremely difficult to actually achieve anyway.