17-02-2015, 10:30 PM
... cause the 3 metal boxes of phonograph records was considered to have "evidentiary value" but not a box of photos and a camera. ::
Jim... was one of the three cameras you refer to the Minox? Cause the box camera isn't there.... McCabe, being an Irving policeman would not be doing any of the DPD paperwork.
The 4 DPD men did not see a camera in this box, only McCabe. And when Ruth comes back in August to get HER stuff back... she gets all the Minox stuff, save the camera...
I'm not understanding the significance of this camera either being left at the Paines, or not being there on the 23rd and returned by Robert... I'm sure it'll come to me.
Mr. STOVALL. There was, as well as I remember---one of the brown ones was a leather appearing suitcase and the other was more of a--some kind of a paper or cardboard suitcase, as well as I remember that thing. It was partially torn, I
mean, it had been well used and was coming apart.
Mr. BALL. And were there three?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And what was the color of the third one?
Mr. STOVALL. I believe it was brown also.
Mr. BALL. You took these materials with you that you have on this list?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you take the snapshots?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes, we took the snapshots.
Mr. BALL. And the negatives?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where are they listed on this exhibit--this Exhibit B?
Mr. STOVALL. I believe we listed them where we've got "Miscellaneous photographs and maps." There were several other photographs that we took when we were there.
Mr. BALL. Now, you also found a magazine advertisement from Klein's Department Store, Klein's in Chicago?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes, sir; that was in the same box with the photographs.
Funny, with so many items of inventory spelled out in great detail, the photos and negatives of the man holding a rifle, nor the Ad showing the same rifle are not listed on the inventory of items taken on 11/23 from the Paines.
Neither are the other suitcases or the duffle bags.
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In the same vein as - the Evidence is the Conspiracy...
Thanks Herbert for confirming that 4 men searched the garage where most of Oswald's possessions were kept.
Fast forward to August 1964 and the discovery of artifacts from a Mexico trip... found, in a small brown suitcase which at the time of the assassination was in the Paine garage yet is not listed on any Inventory sheets from the 22 or 23.
CE 127 - Blue suitcase. may be the one described on the sheet from Nov 23 as found at the Paines supposedly conatining the BYPs yet was neither of the bags Eric Rogers sees Oswald leave with on the 24th of Sept. [URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0169a.htm"]Rogers Ex 1 -
Photographs of both sides of a green canvas bag.[/URL] is the bag Ruth provides the FBI as the one Ozzie took to Mexico. All sorts of bags and boxes, suitcases and such in that garage.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lPageId=29 is a report which states on Feb 19 1964 all Oswald's belongings from that garage were taken by Martin and Thorne
Except of course for this brown suitcase, left in the garage, containing all the Mexico City evidence including a bus ticket stub for a ticket that was never issued. (www.ctka.net)
At the very least this is yet another example where the FBI wrote the reports, the FBI rewrote all the reports after reinterviewing those who needed to amend their statements, and the FBI added to the Oswald inventory between Nov 22 and Nov 26th.
Jim... was one of the three cameras you refer to the Minox? Cause the box camera isn't there.... McCabe, being an Irving policeman would not be doing any of the DPD paperwork.
The 4 DPD men did not see a camera in this box, only McCabe. And when Ruth comes back in August to get HER stuff back... she gets all the Minox stuff, save the camera...
I'm not understanding the significance of this camera either being left at the Paines, or not being there on the 23rd and returned by Robert... I'm sure it'll come to me.
Mr. STOVALL. There was, as well as I remember---one of the brown ones was a leather appearing suitcase and the other was more of a--some kind of a paper or cardboard suitcase, as well as I remember that thing. It was partially torn, I
mean, it had been well used and was coming apart.
Mr. BALL. And were there three?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And what was the color of the third one?
Mr. STOVALL. I believe it was brown also.
Mr. BALL. You took these materials with you that you have on this list?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you take the snapshots?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes, we took the snapshots.
Mr. BALL. And the negatives?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where are they listed on this exhibit--this Exhibit B?
Mr. STOVALL. I believe we listed them where we've got "Miscellaneous photographs and maps." There were several other photographs that we took when we were there.
Mr. BALL. Now, you also found a magazine advertisement from Klein's Department Store, Klein's in Chicago?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes, sir; that was in the same box with the photographs.
Funny, with so many items of inventory spelled out in great detail, the photos and negatives of the man holding a rifle, nor the Ad showing the same rifle are not listed on the inventory of items taken on 11/23 from the Paines.
Neither are the other suitcases or the duffle bags.
============
In the same vein as - the Evidence is the Conspiracy...
Thanks Herbert for confirming that 4 men searched the garage where most of Oswald's possessions were kept.
Fast forward to August 1964 and the discovery of artifacts from a Mexico trip... found, in a small brown suitcase which at the time of the assassination was in the Paine garage yet is not listed on any Inventory sheets from the 22 or 23.
CE 127 - Blue suitcase. may be the one described on the sheet from Nov 23 as found at the Paines supposedly conatining the BYPs yet was neither of the bags Eric Rogers sees Oswald leave with on the 24th of Sept. [URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0169a.htm"]Rogers Ex 1 -
Photographs of both sides of a green canvas bag.[/URL] is the bag Ruth provides the FBI as the one Ozzie took to Mexico. All sorts of bags and boxes, suitcases and such in that garage.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lPageId=29 is a report which states on Feb 19 1964 all Oswald's belongings from that garage were taken by Martin and Thorne
Except of course for this brown suitcase, left in the garage, containing all the Mexico City evidence including a bus ticket stub for a ticket that was never issued. (www.ctka.net)
At the very least this is yet another example where the FBI wrote the reports, the FBI rewrote all the reports after reinterviewing those who needed to amend their statements, and the FBI added to the Oswald inventory between Nov 22 and Nov 26th.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter