15-04-2015, 06:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-04-2015, 06:40 PM by Bob Prudhomme.)
"I'm still waiting for an answer to whether or not someone instructed Baker to include the window in the lunch-room door and who exactly that was if Baker never entered? Or told him to fabricate a man on the 4th floor landing? Since you are saying Baker fabricated this report how could that not be evidence of falsification? And since you yourself are saying Baker falsified evidence then why couldn't Fritz have misrepresented the notes?"
Baker's first day affidavit makes no mention whatsoever of a 2nd floor encounter with Oswald, or anyone else, for that matter. However, the 4th floor encounter, which closely mirrors the 2nd floor encounter, is in this first day statement.
If, in fact, the 2nd floor encounter was a fabrication, wouldn't it be necessary to include such details as the window on the 2nd floor lunch room door? Could someone not supply Baker with such details?
The point of this matter is Baker may very well have ascended the TSBD stairs with Truly, but the available evidence points to this event occurring much later than either Truly's or Baker's testimony would have us believe.
For instance, Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles left the 4th floor immediately after the shots, and should have encountered Baker and Truly at some point, but did not. They also should have heard Oswald on the noisy wooden stairs, but did not.
Ms. Adams DID testify to seeing Billy Lovelady and Bill Shelley on the main floor, near the elevators, but this is an impossibility, too, if Ms. Adams' PLUS Shelley's and Lovelady's testimonies are to be believed.
The weak link in this entire chain is the testimony of Shelley and Lovelady. Their first day statements put them re-entering the TSBD almost immediately, while their testimonies have them standing on the TSBD steps for 3-4 minutes following the shots, and then going down to the rail yards and re-entering the TSBD from the rear. Ms. Adams testified that she immediately exited the TSBD by a rear door, upon her arrival on the main floor, and she would have been long gone before Shelley and Lovelady re-entered the rear of the TSBD.
However, this testimony from Shelley and Lovelady presents us with yet another timing problem, as Baker testified to the WC that he entered the front of the TSBD within 20 seconds of the final shot. Shelley and Lovelady are the only witnesses who could recall seeing Baker and Truly entering the front of the TSBD, and they testified to being 25 steps down the Elm St. extension when they observed this event.
If they remained on the TSBD steps for 3-4 minutes, how could they possibly be 25 steps down the Elm St. extension when they saw Baker entering the front of the TSBD?
There are some serious lies being told here, and the fact that several witnesses on the steps who were standing right at the front door could not recall, in questioning by a WC lawyer, seeing a white helmeted motorcycle cop entering the front door of the TSBD, strongly indicates that Baker did NOT enter the front of the TSBD but, rather, ran right past the TSBD front steps and, if he did enter the TSBD, did so by a rear door, and did so much later than he testified.
Baker's first day affidavit makes no mention whatsoever of a 2nd floor encounter with Oswald, or anyone else, for that matter. However, the 4th floor encounter, which closely mirrors the 2nd floor encounter, is in this first day statement.
If, in fact, the 2nd floor encounter was a fabrication, wouldn't it be necessary to include such details as the window on the 2nd floor lunch room door? Could someone not supply Baker with such details?
The point of this matter is Baker may very well have ascended the TSBD stairs with Truly, but the available evidence points to this event occurring much later than either Truly's or Baker's testimony would have us believe.
For instance, Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles left the 4th floor immediately after the shots, and should have encountered Baker and Truly at some point, but did not. They also should have heard Oswald on the noisy wooden stairs, but did not.
Ms. Adams DID testify to seeing Billy Lovelady and Bill Shelley on the main floor, near the elevators, but this is an impossibility, too, if Ms. Adams' PLUS Shelley's and Lovelady's testimonies are to be believed.
The weak link in this entire chain is the testimony of Shelley and Lovelady. Their first day statements put them re-entering the TSBD almost immediately, while their testimonies have them standing on the TSBD steps for 3-4 minutes following the shots, and then going down to the rail yards and re-entering the TSBD from the rear. Ms. Adams testified that she immediately exited the TSBD by a rear door, upon her arrival on the main floor, and she would have been long gone before Shelley and Lovelady re-entered the rear of the TSBD.
However, this testimony from Shelley and Lovelady presents us with yet another timing problem, as Baker testified to the WC that he entered the front of the TSBD within 20 seconds of the final shot. Shelley and Lovelady are the only witnesses who could recall seeing Baker and Truly entering the front of the TSBD, and they testified to being 25 steps down the Elm St. extension when they observed this event.
If they remained on the TSBD steps for 3-4 minutes, how could they possibly be 25 steps down the Elm St. extension when they saw Baker entering the front of the TSBD?
There are some serious lies being told here, and the fact that several witnesses on the steps who were standing right at the front door could not recall, in questioning by a WC lawyer, seeing a white helmeted motorcycle cop entering the front door of the TSBD, strongly indicates that Baker did NOT enter the front of the TSBD but, rather, ran right past the TSBD front steps and, if he did enter the TSBD, did so by a rear door, and did so much later than he testified.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964

