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On Edwin Kaiser and Related Topics
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:1. Cabell, Dulles and Bissell were forced into resigning, they did not resign of their own free will. Big difference. For example, when Kennedy confronted Dulles after the reports were in, he said words to the effect that if this was a parliamentary system, he would have to resign. But since it was a presidential system, Dulles would have to go.
2. The main body of the invading force was in Central America. They did not get guerrilla training.

3. Every person who JFK consulted during the collapse advised him to save the operation with American forces. In addition to Cabell, this included Nixon and Burke. And when Dulles returned from Puerto Rico, around the second day, who did he go visit? Nixon.

Every person?

Cabell, Burke and Nixon were "every person"? Only Burke was a principal in the mid-March planning sessions!

That DiEugenio passes this nonsense with a straight face is amazing.

He appears incapable of grasping the significance of the following:

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocu...-63v10/d66

Emphasis added

Quote:On March 16, 1961, CIA officials outlined for President Kennedy the revisions to the Zapata plan that the President had called for on the previous day. The President's appointment book indicates that the meeting took place in the White House from 4:15 to 5:23 p.m. The meeting was attended by Vice President Johnson, McNamara, Rusk, Mann, Berle, Dulles, Bissell, McGeorge Bundy, William Bundy, and Gray. (Kennedy Library, President's Appointment Book) Although not listed in the appointment book, it is clear from his subsequent debriefing on the meeting that Admiral Burke also attended. According to Gray's notes on the meeting:

"At meeting with the President, CIA presented revised concepts for the landing at Zapata wherein there would be air drops at first light with [Page 160]the landing at night and all of the ships away from the objective area by dawn. The President decided to go ahead with the Zapata planning; to see what we could do about increasing support to the guerrillas inside the country; to interrogate one member of the force to determine what he knows; and he reserved the right to call off the plan even up to 24 hours prior to the landing." (Summary notes prepared on May 9, 1961, by General Gray; Kennedy Library, National Security Files, Countries Series, Cuba, Subjects, Taylor Report)

On March 17 Admiral Burke provided the JCS with additional details about the discussion of the revised Zapata plan. According to Burke, the President wanted to know what the consequences would be if the operation failed. He asked Burke how he viewed the operation's chance of success. Burke indicated that he had given the President a probability figure of about 50 percent. President Kennedy also inquired what would happen if it developed after the invasion that the Cuban exile force were pinned down and being slaughtered on the beach. If they were to be re-embarked, the President wanted to know where they could be taken. According to Burke's account of the meeting: "It was decided they would not be re-embarked because there was no place to go. Once they were landed they were there." In the course of the discussion, it was emphasized that the plan was dependent on a general uprising in Cuba, and that the entire operation would fail without such an uprising.

"It was decided they would not be re-embarked..."

What part of "it was decided" does DiEugenio not understand?
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On Edwin Kaiser and Related Topics - by Cliff Varnell - 26-08-2016, 07:42 PM

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