24-01-2010, 07:41 AM
Magda:
- Yeah Magda. Andrade only went to see what Rosza was doing in the town, and he stay to drink some beer an talk about football and climate.
The photograpy is REAL and is not the only one. At the begining, governmet try to say that was a fake, UNTIL others come to light, that where showed to the media. Then government change his version (again): now says that was an "undercover" work from Andrade. But that gets things more complicated: The photograps were taked many time before the murders, and so government doesen't take any action when Rosza supposely detonate explosive devices and "try to kill the president" ¿?...
That means too that they have many,many oportunities to capture them ALIVE and with not a scratch ("terrorists" walk freely and unarmed in the streets and evrywhere), so they can talk about the people who support them. Any policeman knows that to capture terrorists ALIVE is a high priority, coz give the opportunity to COMPLETLY DEARTICULATE the organization by knowing the conspirators. If they are killed, secret die with them and the others can continue with conspiracy.
The one at the right of Rosza is called "el viejo" and was the "star" eyewitness of government, until was discovered that he has lied in many of his accusations (as I remember, he try to link an oppositor with a meeting with Rosza, but oppositor was not in the country that date). After that shame, "el viejo" dissapeared under protection of government.
- Yeah. Evrybody think in the begining that it was true that Rosza came to Santa Cruz to defend the city from the agressions of Morales militia and Morale's UTARC, we too see that interview just after his death. But latter, was discovered that interview was part of original plan. Supposely, when he gather all information regarding to Morales oppositors and conspiracy (organized by himself), he has to be "captured" and begin to accuse everybody (oppositors) in the justice court, making a big media Show. Then, that interview was planned to come to light, so there will be no doubt of his intentions. Now we know a little more to be shure that was part of the manipulation.
- WRONG. Santa Cruz ellite never wanted to secede (that was a stupid blame selled by Morales to international media, that usually doesen't reason out the news they get. Any kid looking Bolivia's map knows why). The ellite tryed to shut any voice speaking of secesion. Simply because is bad for business. They depend of Pacific Ocean ports for their exports, and all roads to reach them are thru Aimaran or Quechua territory controlled by Morales. No way to avoid it.
- As I said, Rosza's family are quiet and peaceful family. Not matter what you have read or movie you have see, if you don't cause troubles to a dictator, you can live even in regimes as the Pinochet ones. In fact, almost all leftist chileans who refuse to get involved in the fight against terrible regime of Pinochet, lived peaceful lifes there too.
- LOL Magda, some day you have to come to Bolivia to see how marchs are managed. Trucks with food, coca and water are permanently supporting the marchers. Evrywhere they go, they have shelters. And (specially Morale's marchers) THEY ARE PAYED (Bs. 50 daly, plus food and drinks). I know because I had fiends marching too, that went to La Paz to seize the congress. Multiply that for THOUSANDS DALY and you will see the kind of money we are talking about (they even have enough money to support almost TWO MONTHs of NATIONAL roads blockage). No rich individuals or associations in Bolivia can have that kind of money. NGOs...??..Chavez..??...Drug traffikking...??. .. who knows. Is one of the most guarded secrets of Morales until now.
- No dead policeman. A policeman LEAKED the information to the media about Rosza's computer content. That information was showed in TV. Journalist Carlos Valverde has a copy of it and he publically challenged the government to deny the authenticity of it. Government didn't until today.
I allready post it the link to Carlos Valverde, but I don't have the date that information was released. His video files are there by date.
- Yeah Magda. Andrade only went to see what Rosza was doing in the town, and he stay to drink some beer an talk about football and climate.
The photograpy is REAL and is not the only one. At the begining, governmet try to say that was a fake, UNTIL others come to light, that where showed to the media. Then government change his version (again): now says that was an "undercover" work from Andrade. But that gets things more complicated: The photograps were taked many time before the murders, and so government doesen't take any action when Rosza supposely detonate explosive devices and "try to kill the president" ¿?...
That means too that they have many,many oportunities to capture them ALIVE and with not a scratch ("terrorists" walk freely and unarmed in the streets and evrywhere), so they can talk about the people who support them. Any policeman knows that to capture terrorists ALIVE is a high priority, coz give the opportunity to COMPLETLY DEARTICULATE the organization by knowing the conspirators. If they are killed, secret die with them and the others can continue with conspiracy.
The one at the right of Rosza is called "el viejo" and was the "star" eyewitness of government, until was discovered that he has lied in many of his accusations (as I remember, he try to link an oppositor with a meeting with Rosza, but oppositor was not in the country that date). After that shame, "el viejo" dissapeared under protection of government.
- Yeah. Evrybody think in the begining that it was true that Rosza came to Santa Cruz to defend the city from the agressions of Morales militia and Morale's UTARC, we too see that interview just after his death. But latter, was discovered that interview was part of original plan. Supposely, when he gather all information regarding to Morales oppositors and conspiracy (organized by himself), he has to be "captured" and begin to accuse everybody (oppositors) in the justice court, making a big media Show. Then, that interview was planned to come to light, so there will be no doubt of his intentions. Now we know a little more to be shure that was part of the manipulation.
- WRONG. Santa Cruz ellite never wanted to secede (that was a stupid blame selled by Morales to international media, that usually doesen't reason out the news they get. Any kid looking Bolivia's map knows why). The ellite tryed to shut any voice speaking of secesion. Simply because is bad for business. They depend of Pacific Ocean ports for their exports, and all roads to reach them are thru Aimaran or Quechua territory controlled by Morales. No way to avoid it.
- As I said, Rosza's family are quiet and peaceful family. Not matter what you have read or movie you have see, if you don't cause troubles to a dictator, you can live even in regimes as the Pinochet ones. In fact, almost all leftist chileans who refuse to get involved in the fight against terrible regime of Pinochet, lived peaceful lifes there too.
- LOL Magda, some day you have to come to Bolivia to see how marchs are managed. Trucks with food, coca and water are permanently supporting the marchers. Evrywhere they go, they have shelters. And (specially Morale's marchers) THEY ARE PAYED (Bs. 50 daly, plus food and drinks). I know because I had fiends marching too, that went to La Paz to seize the congress. Multiply that for THOUSANDS DALY and you will see the kind of money we are talking about (they even have enough money to support almost TWO MONTHs of NATIONAL roads blockage). No rich individuals or associations in Bolivia can have that kind of money. NGOs...??..Chavez..??...Drug traffikking...??. .. who knows. Is one of the most guarded secrets of Morales until now.
- No dead policeman. A policeman LEAKED the information to the media about Rosza's computer content. That information was showed in TV. Journalist Carlos Valverde has a copy of it and he publically challenged the government to deny the authenticity of it. Government didn't until today.
I allready post it the link to Carlos Valverde, but I don't have the date that information was released. His video files are there by date.