22-04-2019, 05:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 22-04-2019, 05:24 AM by Peter Lemkin.)
Having read a LOT of the Mueller report, I agree with the following.....I agreed with it before it was written. Trump has to go and the only way to force him to go is Impeachment [even if the Senate won't convict]. Mueller was NOT a witch hunt - it puts all the horrible things we knew in context and with dots mostly connected.....and his remit was narrow. This horrible thing in the White House must go. Yes, the others since JFK have been pretty bad, as well [Carter being the only slightly better], and Hillary would have been another kind of horrible - but this is a way of saying 'none of the above' will be tolerated......... Trump has been breaking the law since he was a teen - and it is not befitting a country that pretends to be a democracy run by rule of law to allow him to continue doing so as President about things that effect this Nation and the World! Sorry, I see no wiggle room. One can easily download the report in PDF format and read it yourself. Even with the redactions it is damning. With the narrow focus it is damning. A good website to read if you are too lazy is emptywheel.net - for predigested bits, best 'worst' bits, etc. ::pullhairout:: ....and the Report/Investigation didn't even get into the emolluments crimes and other crimes with nepotism, Nazis, racism, Muslims, immigrants, asylum seekers, the poor, the middle-class, and one can go on and on and on. This President makes Pres. Shrub look fit for office..... that alone is an incredible feat!!!! Trumpf has shot someone on Fifth Ave.....and if you can't see it is you and all your fellow citizens you are blind........ There are many 'eggs to break' beyond Trump and I am all in for breaking them too....but start at the top and lets tear down the entire system - it is rotten to the core to allow such a thing to happen in the first place and give the People two absolutely horrible choices for President along with 80+% of Congress who should also be impeached [better never elected].....and then we take on unbridled Crapitalism....but one has to start somewhere and I say it is here......
Do the Right Thing: Break Some Eggs and Impeach
There've been a lot of eggs cracked today. Not all of the eggs in need of cracking came in pretty dyed shells.
Like the oeuvre floating around out there claiming impeachment is bad for the country. (I'm looking at you, Tumulty.)
There's really no question about what must be done. There's only a fight against spin protecting an un-indicted co-conspirator, or worse. Sadly, some of the spin comes from the left and it needs to be smashed right now.
But why impeach? they ask.
Because it's the right thing to do when a law enforcement investigation reveals a pattern of unlawful behavior.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president systematically engages in abuse of power and unethical behavior, causing states and non-governmental groups alike to sue to protect human rights.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president breaks his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president fails to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
Because it's the necessary thing to do when the president's incompetence or bigotry results in the deaths of thousands of American citizens without so much as an apology.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president permits and/or encourages dangerous deviations some in secret from national security policy without debate, advice, and consent by Congress.
Because it's the right thing to do when the executive usurps co-equal branches' power to check the executive.
Because failure to do so yields the co-equal power of Congress to the executive for the worst of reasons because it's too much trouble, timed inconveniently, unpopular.
Because failure to do assures future unethical presidents, they, too, need not worry they will be held to account by the branch of government charged with doing so; they'll feel protected, insulated from rebuke and punishment.
Because failure to do so assures a certain class of person they are above the law while telling the average citizen they belong to a second and lower class.
Because failing to do so sends a message to foreign powers that tampering with our elections will go unchecked; a mere censure will only enrage a malignant narcissistic executive while doing nothing to deter hostile foreign actors.
Because we are a nation of laws, and the law provides for the rebuke and removal of an executive guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, including unlawful orders, bad faith execution, unethical behavior, and abuse of office.
Because we must lead the future by example, demonstrating the exercise of oversight powers which include impeachment of a failed executive even when a country is divided by popular opinion.
There are far too many constructive reasons why we should impeach the executive; the risk from failing to attempt impeachment is far greater, considering the hollowing out of government and undermining of long-term policy continuing apace. The common good demands it.
Do we proceed directly to impeachment? This is a matter of conjecture I believe we need to investigate the gaps in the Special Counsel's report, including counterintelligence, so that we address each item in full view of the public with the exception of classified matters. The executive must be fully accountable to the people; he governs only with their consent which is already thin based on his loss of the popular vote.
Will investigative and impeachment hearings get in the way of legislative business? No. Congress has investigative hearings all the time in addition to legislative business. The legislative work to date has been piling up at the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's desk because he is obstructing House Democrats by gatekeeping. Will any less legislation be passed by the Senate if the House dedicates any more time to investigative hearings? No, thanks to McConnell.
Read the Special Counsel's report for yourself. Ask yourself if what you read represents the combined work of a candidate and president and his campaign and administration who are truly intent on serving the best interests of this entire country. Were these individuals willing to set their personal interests aside and work toward a more perfect union, establishing Justice, insuring domestic tranquility, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for all?
Or were they working for themselves and personal or familial enrichment, for their personal glory and entitlement, and for the benefit of some other non-U.S. entities to our likely detriment?
Begin the impeachment process. Let's break some eggs.
Do the Right Thing: Break Some Eggs and Impeach
There've been a lot of eggs cracked today. Not all of the eggs in need of cracking came in pretty dyed shells.
Like the oeuvre floating around out there claiming impeachment is bad for the country. (I'm looking at you, Tumulty.)
There's really no question about what must be done. There's only a fight against spin protecting an un-indicted co-conspirator, or worse. Sadly, some of the spin comes from the left and it needs to be smashed right now.
But why impeach? they ask.
Because it's the right thing to do when a law enforcement investigation reveals a pattern of unlawful behavior.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president systematically engages in abuse of power and unethical behavior, causing states and non-governmental groups alike to sue to protect human rights.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president breaks his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president fails to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
Because it's the necessary thing to do when the president's incompetence or bigotry results in the deaths of thousands of American citizens without so much as an apology.
Because it's the right thing to do when the president permits and/or encourages dangerous deviations some in secret from national security policy without debate, advice, and consent by Congress.
Because it's the right thing to do when the executive usurps co-equal branches' power to check the executive.
Because failure to do so yields the co-equal power of Congress to the executive for the worst of reasons because it's too much trouble, timed inconveniently, unpopular.
Because failure to do assures future unethical presidents, they, too, need not worry they will be held to account by the branch of government charged with doing so; they'll feel protected, insulated from rebuke and punishment.
Because failure to do so assures a certain class of person they are above the law while telling the average citizen they belong to a second and lower class.
Because failing to do so sends a message to foreign powers that tampering with our elections will go unchecked; a mere censure will only enrage a malignant narcissistic executive while doing nothing to deter hostile foreign actors.
Because we are a nation of laws, and the law provides for the rebuke and removal of an executive guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, including unlawful orders, bad faith execution, unethical behavior, and abuse of office.
Because we must lead the future by example, demonstrating the exercise of oversight powers which include impeachment of a failed executive even when a country is divided by popular opinion.
There are far too many constructive reasons why we should impeach the executive; the risk from failing to attempt impeachment is far greater, considering the hollowing out of government and undermining of long-term policy continuing apace. The common good demands it.
Do we proceed directly to impeachment? This is a matter of conjecture I believe we need to investigate the gaps in the Special Counsel's report, including counterintelligence, so that we address each item in full view of the public with the exception of classified matters. The executive must be fully accountable to the people; he governs only with their consent which is already thin based on his loss of the popular vote.
Will investigative and impeachment hearings get in the way of legislative business? No. Congress has investigative hearings all the time in addition to legislative business. The legislative work to date has been piling up at the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's desk because he is obstructing House Democrats by gatekeeping. Will any less legislation be passed by the Senate if the House dedicates any more time to investigative hearings? No, thanks to McConnell.
Read the Special Counsel's report for yourself. Ask yourself if what you read represents the combined work of a candidate and president and his campaign and administration who are truly intent on serving the best interests of this entire country. Were these individuals willing to set their personal interests aside and work toward a more perfect union, establishing Justice, insuring domestic tranquility, providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for all?
Or were they working for themselves and personal or familial enrichment, for their personal glory and entitlement, and for the benefit of some other non-U.S. entities to our likely detriment?
Begin the impeachment process. Let's break some eggs.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass